(ThyBlackMan.com) Circumstances have caused Women to be placed into roles that were not designed for them, and because of that, and in addition to subscribing to certain mentalities, we have a lot of role play going on in our communities. The “Independent Mindset” has made many women delusional (thinking she is “the man”) thus creating power struggles in our households. No man wants to feel like his wife is competing with him; every time he comes home there is a head butting match going on. Here she is telling him,” anything you can do I can do better”. Really? Well NATURALLY produce your own sperm and impregnate yourself! Let’s stop with this “I don’t need a man nonsense”, and if we are married or seeking marriage, before you talk about what the “ideal husband” is, make sure you are an “ideal WIFE” FIRST.
When a man asks a woman to marry him he is asking her to be his wife. He is asking her to submit to him, He is asking her to trust him, to respect his role, and understand her role as it relates to marriage. He is asking her to birth his legacy. He is asking her to stand by him and encourage him. He is asking her to be his helpmeet.
When a woman says “yes” to a marriage proposal, she is saying “yes I trust you to lead me and our children”, “yes I trust you to protect us, and make the best decisions for us as a family”, “yes I trust you to be the head of our household”, “yes I will extend your life and build a legacy with you by giving you children”, “yes I will submit to you”, “yes I will be your HELPMEET”.
What is a helpmeet? As a wife it means you HELP your HUSBAND, you HELP him MEET his goals and you HELP him MEET and increase his potential to succeed. Whatever your husband needs you to be, whether it is his secretary, his PR, his researcher, his accountant or his administrative assistant you cheerfully assist him. So many women want a man that’s already “arrived” they miss out on the beautiful journey of helping him “get there”.
Now let’s talk about the word that paralyzes women in fear or causes rebelliousness; SUBMISSION! Sisters why are we so afraid or why do we rebel against submission? Do we not realize that at our place of employment we submit to our supervisors, and more than likely we do so with a smile on our faces? Do we not realize that we submit to a certain style of dress based on advertising? However when we come home, the smile that was displayed on our faces to our supervisor turns into a snarl when we greet our husbands. In a world where the Black Man’s authority is unrecognized, discounted, undermined and overshadowed, he does not need his authority bucked in his own house by his wife. Yes a husband has authority over his wife.
Ephesians 5:22-23 “ Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.One of the definitions for the word “head” is as follows: The position or place of leadership, greatest authority, or honor.
So you can clearly see that a husband has authority over his wife. Now let’s define what type of authority, because with authority comes control. Brothers, let’s not be control freaks. If God isn’t leading YOU, then you are incapable of leading anyone else. We don’t want a “King Kong beating on my chest, I’m man do as I say” authority either. Don’t be abusive with your control and become a tyrant. Your wife is not your slave, she is your counterpart.
Now Sisters, I already know that when you read the word control, antennas went up. I can hear the collective mantra of “No man is going to control me” all around the globe. Well if a man isn’t able to control you how will he protect you? How can a man lead if there is no control? How can a man lead if he is being disobeyed? What we have to realize is that our husbands have our BEST INTEREST at heart and in mind. Part of man’s role is to secure his family, and how can he secure his wife, if she is out running loose, in a club in or an environment that compromises her safety? We don’t have the luxury of picking and choosing what a man’s role is, and what parts we agree and are willing to deal with. Yet we want our roles altered and understood. When did cooking and providing Heaven in our homes become beneath us as women?
I often hear talk of Sisters wanting a “real man” well, some of us couldn’t handle a “real man” nor would we be able to recognize him if he presented himself to us. The problem is that many of us think we are “real women” but in actuality we are operating off a synthetic mindset. We want men that WE can control, but let me tell you something about a “real man”; A “real man” will not let a woman control him. ( I Tim. 2:11-12, “She shall have no dominion over a man“) As women the only male we have control over are our sons and even that is for a limited time. So please stop with the “I let a man be a man”, because you don’t give a man permission to be anything but what he is, instead try working on embracing all the beautiful qualities and gifts that we possess as women.
I know some of us as women might have been placed in situations where we had no control and we were violated and it might be hard for us to submit, because we feel like we lose so much of ourselves if we do. It is in our nature to submit, it is an act of call and response, his nature calls for submission and our nature responds by submitting. Sisters, there is so much power and beauty in submission. When your husband exhibits the God within himself, your nature, that same nature that you try to fight, will betray you and act accordingly. You will find that submitting will not only become an honor but a PLEASURE to do so. A man that knows his wife is submissive, a man that knows that his word and authority and word is respected in his house, that man will go above and beyond for his wife hence, the beautiful power of submission.
Another vital role as a wife is the manner in which we speak to our husbands. Sometimes our tone is so harsh and instead of soothing the lashes on his back, we add more. When we speak to men in a certain manner, nothing gets accomplished because he automatically shuts down. I have been in an abusive relationship and I know what it feels like not to be heard, so I would literally get into a screaming match all because I felt like my voice, my words and my thoughts were not being taken seriously, so I can understand Sisters who feel like they have to speak in a certain manner because they have been silenced before. We have to heal from those past relationships and learn how to choose more wisely, and speak in a tone that will be properly received.
Black Men have so many trials. They are told by this world they are nothing; they don’t that repeated to them from their wife. The Bible gives specific instructions regarding a wife and her tone; Proverbs 21:19 “ Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.” A desert is a place that is void of water, without water life cannot be sustained, just think about that! It’s better for a man to live in a dessert than with a nagging wife, a place where he could essentially die…why is that? Because with our tones we have the capability to kill a man’s SPIRIT. As wives we are to replenish, rebuild and renew our husbands.
So let’s stop this destructive role play. As a woman focus on what your role is. Stop looking across the aisle telling him everything he needs to be, because all of us are not the “good woman” that we THINK we are. The reality is, when we learn how to master our roles, HIS role isn’t up for discussion because nature takes place. If WE as WOMEN are ACTIVELY fulfilling our roles, then our MEN will in turn fulfill their roles.
Staff Writer; Nojma Muhammad
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I don’t fear a strong woman but I don’t tolerate an overbearing or controlling woman. I don’t shun an independent woman but she must know that we need each other. We (man and woman) are to be dependent on each other for the different strengths we have. We are equal but our roles are different and thus homosexuality or lesbianism violates those roles defined by God.
I am accountable to my wife and she is accountable to me. I lead by example and give her ever reason to respect me. I value her opinions, ask for them and count on them because I know she knows things I do not. We have each others back any time, every time, all the time.
There is no competition in our marriage except who can give more or help the other person more. I wish this for all of you, if you deserve it. But if you sow the seeds of confrontation, a smart mouth, walking in denial and excuses, you are neither ready for a great man nor an awesome relationship.
And if you have seen my articles on this site, you already know that I am balanced and even harder on men.
Being a strong woman (and I married to one) should not be confused with an overbearing, confrontational or dominating woman who is neither humble nor submissive. My wife is my equal, but in God’s Kingdom, there can be two equals with two different roles – both just as important, both needed just as much.
A woman who cannot control her mouth (like Sandra Bland) is a detriment to herself and her family. She can be used easily by satan and if she is not careful, her spirit can be infected by the racist approach of the slave master.
As a family and relationship counselor, mediator and life coach who has counseled thousands of men, women, couples and families, I must say this article addresses many points accurately to the core. Yes I am an African American male but I have helped countless women (and men) recognize and return to the roles that feminists have degraded.
Those who disagree with the man as the head are those who disagree with the Bible period. Those who think the man is a ruler instead of a leader do not understand the scriptures. Furthermore, virtually every religion, belief system and ancient civilization recognizes clearly defined and different roles of the man and the woman.
The man is the head, not because you let him be. Not because he is a good head. Not because he meets your idea of what a head should be. HE IS THE HEAD BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO!
@ wishuwould247. To be honest I was responding to the article just like everyone else. The fact that I implied that my father en taught my sister and myself to not be submissive and obedient,that’s when all the this debate that evetually got petty in the long run started. I know that no one is perfect but God. I also know that father is not perfect, but I do know that he is a man and has full mindset of how men think and operate and he meant what he said about my sister and I not being submissive and obedient wives.
No doubt @wishyouwould247…no doubt….I didn’t make it up but i agree with it
Seriously!!!!! You want more????? LOL you must like me because there is no way you can challenge what I just said. First and foremost I’m not looking for credit for reading the Bible. I think that verse is pretty clear when it comes to the order or God, Christ, Man, and Woman. Little ole woman comes forth. Not all this arrogance that many women (although like my granny says “not all women can be ladies” so I’ll give you the woman title to make you happy. Now it’s clear from an intelligence standpoint, you are not on my level. You don’t have any marriage experience at all to speak from that perspective as well. Now I read extensively while many black people my age (34) run the club circuit. I’m pretty sure you fit this description because if you read the things I read, then we would see eye to eye. This is not a diss but fact. It’s not to say that I’m better than you;just wiser. It would serve you very well to listen to a Man when he speaks because we know what we are looking for when looking for potential mates. Seriously, how can you tell me, a Man who’s been married before, what kind of woman I should expect? One of the main reasons why I divorced my ex-wife was because her closest friend was a woman who thought like you. The type of chicks who ran the streets and was independent, cheating right on her Jamaican boyfriend while he was in Afghanistan working on her behalf. Show me anything in nature that’s strong, that is willing to conform to something that’s weak? Have you ever seen a female lion run up on a male lion? Nope. She knows is she does, he will go in with no mercy. Your statement that i was a weak was nothing to interpret. This statement says alot about you:
It seems like you have a problem with me not buying into your false perception of me stating that I am a strong independent woman. Your name calling approach is not gonna make me back down.
I would think when someone displays a higher form of intelligence you would show some respect but I get it, when it comes from the mouth of a brother with a dark hue, then it can’t be accepted. I get it. You have to combat it. You were the one who made it personal when you singled me out and called me weak. But see I didn’t take it there with you. I debated your argument, i didn’t show hate towards the person who gave it which was you. You had no reason to “back down” because there was no personal attack against you!!!!! Your infantile mind perceived discourse as a personal attack when that’s your immaturity, not mine. And what makes it worse, the people who run this site hate me and never defend me when people personally attack (not that I need it). But when I say things they don’t like, they intervene. Kind of weird to me but hey, I know the type of people I’m dealing with so it’s no biggie. Lion knows hyenas will exist in the jungle.
You say “Don’t put women down just because they have the confidence to speak their minds and don’t care if everyone doesn’t agree with their view points.” This is a very weak thing women who unknowingly, to their detriment, buy into feminist notions, do when unable to defend themselves as individuals. They lump themselves into a gender thinking that their position as woman (the weaker sex) will gain them sympathy win they want to win an argument. However if i made a general statement like “all women are weak” you would no doubt have a conniption (a fit of rage or hysterics). But now, because you can’t win your argument, now you’re “women.” Now it’s you dear, all on an island, by yourself debating me since you singled me out with that “i’m weak” charge.
And I love a woman who can think sensibly for herself. Cooking and cleaning is thinking sensibly to me because I don’t want to live in squalor and want a hot plate of food instead of going to McDonald’s because if you can’t perform these tasks properly, then I’m better off hiring a Mexican maid to take care of these needs for me and paying for sex. A woman who can’t set a dinner table is of no use to me, even with all her degrees. I can’t eat a degree. Sorry it’s impossible. And you know what’s really funny: you still have not apologized for calling me weak. LOL!!!!! Not that I need one but it shows your lack of etiquette indeed. See when it comes to a Man like myself, my lady needs to display a certain je ne sais quoi (an indefinable, elusive quality, especially a pleasing one if you don’t know the definition).
My woman has to have a certain level of sophistication and elegance. I would definitely not want her calling men she absolutely does not anything about weak because that would reflect poorly on me. And if that was my daughter, i definitely not want that because I wouldn’t be able to unload her off on any man, which means I would have to take care of her longer than I would want to. But when your behavior is uncouth (of a person or their appearance or behavior; Lacking good manners, refinement, or grace; Lacking sophistication or delicacy) then it’s unfair for me to expect something of you you haven’t been taught. The approach you take, and your lack of tact (having or showing a sense of what is fitting and considerate in dealing with others) in a personal manner let’s me know your lower class way of thinking. I surely hope you don’t approach men with the notion that they are all weak and talk to them in that manner because some men do not take kindly to that type of talk. At the present moment, I am reading a book dealing with social etiquette and it’s quite interesting to see how many things I have said on here are said in this book. Let me give you a tidbit to get you going on your quest for good manners, something you clearly lack when it comes to strangers from the etiquette book I’m reading:
Good manners will enable you to be easy and graceful at all times. You will be able to mingle with the most cultured people and be perfectly at ease. You will lose all self-consciousness, all timidity. And instead you will become dignified, well poised, calm. Instinctively people will respect you: in business and in society you you will find yourself welcome and admired.
In addition it says:
The perfect “lady” is not the ornamental butterfly of society, as so many would have us believe. She is gentle, and well-dressed and graceful–not merely ornamental. She does some useful work, no matter what it is. She is patient always, and generous. She never speaks harshly…She in never haughty, never superior. She is kind and courteous to everyone, and she conducts herself with the calm, unassuming grace that instinctively wins a responsive respect. In her manner towards men she is reserved, modest….
Now I went searching the other day for any books that dealt with proper etiquette and was blessed enough to find a wealth of info on it and will be doing some research on it because of something I’m thinking of putting together. You violated from the onset when you responded to me. Simple and plain. I don’t hate you and I don’t care to call you names either because I don’t know you. But I do know two things: A woman teaches her daughter how to be or how not to be and a father teaches a woman how to value herself as a woman by utilizing ancient principles given through the ages by our Creator. That is truth. And I judged you off the things you said. Nothing more nothing less. And as a Man, we have the power to judge women because we ultimately decide whether we want to marry you or not. That’s why women should always be on their best behavior because there’s nothing more hurtful to a Woman when she realizes she’s not wanted by men, especially when her youth has left her.
If you spent less time trying to debate me young lady, you actually might learn something. On second thought, what do I know. I’m only a black man and we don’t know anything. LOL!!!!!
@Ronette, you not debating with Ramses, you debating with God. Ramses backs up everything he says and is very consistent in his view which falls in line with the Bible. I noticed you have made contradicting statements. Maybe you need to rethink what you have been taught, our parents are not perfect and sometimes get things wrong. Not saying your father was a bad man, just that he isn’t perfect, which no one is but God
Ramses, before you respond, please stop judging what you don’t know because real independent women do not disrespectful men. Real independent men do not want a woman who do not think for herself nor do not help make decisions. Times have changed and it’s time that our black society accepts that.
Ramsey, I wil give you credit for reading the bible. Unfortunately, everybody don’t interpret the bible the same. It seems like you have a problem with me not buying into your false perception of me stating that I am a strong independent woman. Your name calling approach is not gonna make me back down. I’m gonna say this to you one more time, I am not a chick. Just because my father taught me to stand on my two feet, depend on myself doesn’t make me think that I superior over men.
Don’t put women down just because they have the confidence to speak their minds and don’t care if everyone doesn’t agree with their view points.
Really!!!!! Lol….Ok let’s do this. Haha. Your comments suggest that you don’t wanna give me credit at all, typical black woman behavior. Let’s start from the top. You start off with “Ramses, you are long winded.” Let’s get one thing straight: black boys and girls on here please stop telling people that their comments are too long!!! If you’re too lazy to read, then don’t read it and you wouldn’t have to respond to it. I don’t see any of you arguing with the writer’s of these articles about the length of their articles so don’t do it to me. Period. If it’s too long for your ahort attention span get your ADD behinds off here and get on twitter!!! LOL…. Then you say submission goes both ways. Damn did you read what I said? I responded with “Men submit too. We just do it differently.” Lol….. Now for a woman who talked so adamantly about being “Independent” you all of a sudden switched to submission, something you said your father never raised you or your sister to do. let me remind you of what you said.
I just want to point out that my father would always encourage my sister and myself to be strong and independent women. He did not raise us to submissive. I can’t imagine a father that would ever encourage his daughter to become a submissive wife and tell her she has to be odedient towards her husband. My father would always tell me that a real man will accept my independence and only a weak man would want a weak submissive woman. No one can control me unless I allow it to happen.
Seems like your weak argument is all over the place (notice I didn’t call you weak). First you say “only a weak man would want a submissive woman.” Now you say “submission goes both ways.” In the words of black women, seems like “you’re trying to have your cake and eat it too.” LOL!!! Then you go on to say the following:
“That’s why I said that a real man will accept a strong independent woman because he knows that 2 heads working together as one, is alot better than working alone, and guess what, that strong independent woman will accept that real man if he is patient, honest, and reliable.”
I don’t see anything in your comments talking about working with a man at all. Show me where you even conceived of the notion of working with a man? Any man with sense would read your comments the way you meant for them to be conveyed: arrogantly. Now let’s see what I wrote shall we?
“Because the real issue the black community shows time and time again, no matter if it’s kids, women or men that black men get disrespected for the very authority other men are respected for wielding. This is how I know many women, majority of women, who go to church and claim they believe in God and love God really don’t because as soon as you show them scriptures that command them to respect and submit to men they skate around the issue and try to debate. There’s nothing to debate when God gives you clear instructions. Then the excuse is used that “well we have had our hearts broken.” So what does that have to do with following God’s instructions? Scripture doesn’t leave you in limbo. When you are giving instructions to assemble a lawnmower, the directions are clear. When you try to assemble it w/o following instructions you will find yourself with a machine that doesn’t work. The same goes for relationships. If you don’t follow basic rules, it (the relationship) will not work. You have women who challenge men and say are they ready to step up and perform a man’s duty which usually means are they financially ready to step up and support their material needs. Women need to stop viewing their potential mates as fathers and instead of start looking at them as partners because when you do this, you realize that a partner needs your assistance. Being a man means making tough decisions, not being a tyrant. When a major situation comes up, he is supposed to make the ultimate decision because if things go wrong, people won’t look at the woman for answers, they will look at men. So if he gets the blame, then he should make the decision. Now if you say “men have used me, or my hearts been broken” then you should not be in a relationship with anyone if these experiences will keep you from giving yourself completely in terms of coming together. But don’t use the excuse of past relationships when someone is trying to hold you accountable in regards to the time they spend with you. If you’re not emotionally ready, don’t waste anyone’s time male or female.”
Now does these comments sound weak to you or truthful? It seems as if your feelings got hurt. I said “Women need to stop viewing their potential mates as fathers and instead of start looking at them as partners because when you do this, you realize that a partner needs your assistance. Being a man means making tough decisions, not being a tyrant.” I said men should not wield their power as tyrants over their women, although they need to enforce rules though. But the truth women should be the women they were created to be and comply with rules they claim they believe in. Too many women like yourselves are always talking about what your pastor says. Forget him. What does the scripture says. You have black women in the church more loyal to their pastor than their husbands!!!!! Retards. But this statement says it all about you:
“that strong independent woman will accept that real man if he is patient, honest, and reliable. It’s shame that you have use the Scriptures to justify your scrutiny towards black women.”
When you say “patient” you want a man to put up with all your emotional trauma you have inside of you which is something I will not do. Many women out here deserve to get that same taser that monkey chick got in Atlanta the other day. “reliable” translates into “I’ve picked some sorry men in my life.” “Honest” translates into “I let some men run over me and deal with multiple women hoping he would stop and then when he didn’t I’m gonna judge the next man according to what he did to me.” And then “scrutiny” means as a black woman, “I don’t think you have the right to use scripture to make accountable.” LOL!!!!!!!! I’m using the Word of God to justify my scrutiny towards black women!!!! Hmmmmmm. Am I not supposed to? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Your retort was childish in nature as usual and as usual I had to blow it down like a an African hut in a tornado!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! You chicks never want to be held accountable for your actions or words at all. I want men and women to analyze the stupidity that is prevalent in statements you made. Your father unfortunately has raised you and your sister with a mentality that is not conducive to you both getting married. I doubt it if you two have ever been but miracles do happen. I want people to read the dialog back and forth and please let me know what I said was wrong. I made statements of fact and then backed it up with truth by the Word of God yet this chick still is fighting it. And you’ll wonder why brothers don’t wanna marry you. I mean you can find some weak brothers to trick into marriage but after awhile you’re gonna see a man of my caliber and try to throw it to me on the sly in church!!!! Lol. There are weak black men abound but that’s the problem. I’m pretty sure some of you’ll can get married right now to some weak dude but that’s your dilemma: should you marry the corny dude and control him or submit to the stronger man? Many choose the former and then later complain about men being weak in general. I show you the Word of God and you say I’m wrong for scrutinizing you using the spiritual science God gave to Man to use, yet you use it obnoxiously when you think it can get you home in terms of defending your weak argument. Chick you going in circles and I will only address you as a woman when you demonstrate you have the intellect and spiritual fortitude to show me you are one. Until then, I put you in timeout for disrespecting an adult. Go to your room and no dinner for you tonight!!!!!! LOL. This chick is insane for real
Ramses, you are long winded. Submission goes both ways. That’s why I said that a real man will accept a strong independent woman because he knows that 2 heads working together as one, is alot better than working alone, and guess what, that strong independent woman will accept that real man if he is patient, honest, and reliable. It’s shame that you have use the Scriptures to justify your scrutiny towards black women. By the way, black women are not black chicks!!!!! Have a blessed day.
And your father don’t have to warn you about men like men because I have no interest in independent minded black chicks so once you said that word to me I wouldn’t have called you if you were even attractive enough for me to approach in the first place
lol!!!!!!!!!! @sankofa
Well my woman doesn’t think I’m a weak man ronette so I must do something right…..how does your man feel about you?….and you cannot teach me anything at all about scripture dear…you’re clearly unqualified because you clearly lack the intelligence to get the deeper meaning of my comment about the boss thing…..lol…..but here’s your problem right here ” I can’t imagine a father that would ever encourage his daughter to become a submissive wife and tell her she has to be odedient towards her husband. My father would always tell me that a real man will accept my independence and only a weak man would want a weak submissive woman.” How has that independence on the marriage circuit? Has it gotten you anywhere? Men submit too. We just do it differently. But the word submit sounds bad to a female who wants to talk to her man any kind of way, carry herself in publics any kind of way, sleep around with all types of men so since there are plenty of females who want tis lifestyle instead of submitting to proper modes of behavior, it’s easy to see why they never get a marriage proposal and while other women get to be stay at home mothers, nurturing their children like civilized women do, your kind is slaving at a job sticking out your chest talking about independence. I was nurtured by civilized women and protected by strong men which is why I have a healthy self-concept. The last thing I would want to be raised by is a so-called “independent” woman. No thanks. Those women tend to raise unproductive kids who are directionless in life and have civilized people like myself on websites like this trying to lead you back to a path you sorely need to embrace. And you quote scripture so let me give you one to chew on
1st Corinthians Verse 11: Now I praise you, bretheren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you. But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man is not from woman, but woman from man. Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord. For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God.” WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dare any of you silly females to challenge this scripture. Your word “Independent” is turned on its head. Man is the image and glory of God according to the scriptures!!!!!!! Man was not created for woman, but she was created for him. It’s funny how you females don’t know this scripture. Before I came back to the scriptures, I talked this way. When I came back to the scriptures, it only confirmed what I knew because I always viewed myself as a Man. Chick says I’m weak!!!! LOl… Well if I’m weak then God is weak and I have no problem going into the world God has created and find me a wife because I know who I am while you are “independent.” And for the weak dudes who claim they know God, why don’t you’ll ever bring this scripture up to these females instead of trying to beat me down? God gives me the authority to speak the way I do. I don’t talk crap. Everything I say is backed with logic and common sense. Damn why do men need to go to a book to see their power? Damn muscles show you have power!!!! Lol. Any man, if he wants to know what type of woman he’s dealing with, who wants to get married should pose this verse to a woman, especially those who say they are Christian because it’s clear females have no clue when it comes to spiritual matters regarding men. Your daddy says you’re independent, yet God says you’re not….HMMMMMMMMMM….seems like you’re weak dear. But I’m sure you will use your secular, liberal, college education to weasel out of this accountability that God commands of you. LOLLLLLLLLL….South American or Southeast Asian for me since they have no problem submitting. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL
The Husband Store
A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates:
You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular
floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!
So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads:
Floor 1 – These men Have Jobs.
She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:
Floor 2 – These men Have Jobs and Love Kids.
‘That’s nice,’ she thinks, ‘but I want more.’
So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:
Floor 3 – These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking.
‘Wow,’ she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.
She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:
Floor 4 – These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework.
‘Oh, mercy me!’ she exclaims, ‘I can hardly stand it!’
Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:
Floor 5 – These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak.
She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:
Floor 6 – You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.
PLEASE NOTE:
To avoid gender bias charges, the store’s owner opened a New Wives store across the street.
The first floor has wives that love sex.
The second floor has wives that love sex and have money and like beer
The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NN2A1XkdVI
I also want to say that real independent women do not use their independence as a weapon against men. Independence is earned and man should not define what an independent woman should be.
I’m only responding to Ramses’s comment. Your debate about a woman submitting to her boss is weak because a man has to submit to his boss and does not question his boss’s authority either because he values his job enough to keep his mouth in line as well.
Since you want to use your personal interpretation of the scriptures, let me point out a verse that people intentionally overlook in chapter 5 of the Ephesians.
Ephesians 5:21, ” Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.” Obviously you are one of those people who intentionally overlook. You also seem like one of those weak men that my father warned me about. A real man will accept a woman who is independent.
It’s interesting how the very women who claim Independence want marriage at the same time!!! How is that possible? If your father taught you to be Independent then he taught you how to be by yourself because marriage and Independence does not go together, for a Man or Woman. I tell women all the time, you submit to men all the time whether you realize it or not. On your jobs, when your boss (when it’s a man) gives you a directive, do you not follow it? Do you question his “authority?” Do you challenge his position? No because if you did you will be replaced. Does your boss endear you to him all the time? Of course not. However you value that job enough to keep your mouth in line. So if you can do that on your job, why can’t you take that same mentality into a relationship with a Black Man? Because the real issue the black community shows time and time again, no matter if it’s kids, women or men that black men get disrespected for the very authority other men are respected for wielding. This is how I know many women, majority of women, who go to church and claim they believe in God and love God really don’t because as soon as you show them scriptures that command them to respect and submit to men they skate around the issue and try to debate. There’s nothing to debate when God gives you clear instructions. Then the excuse is used that “well we have had our hearts broken.” So what does that have to do with following God’s instructions? Scripture doesn’t leave you in limbo. When you are giving instructions to assemble a lawnmower, the directions are clear. When you try to assemble it w/o following instructions you will find yourself with a machine that doesn’t work. The same goes for relationships. If you don’t follow basic rules, it (the relationship) will not work. You have women who challenge men and say are they ready to step up and perform a man’s duty which usually means are they financially ready to step up and support their material needs. Women need to stop viewing their potential mates as fathers and instead of start looking at them as partners because when you do this, you realize that a partner needs your assistance. Being a man means making tough decisions, not being a tyrant. When a major situation comes up, he is supposed to make the ultimate decision because if things go wrong, people won’t look at the woman for answers, they will look at men. So if he gets the blame, then he should make the decision. Now if you say “men have used me, or my hearts been broken” then you should not be in a relationship with anyone if these experiences will keep you from giving yourself completely in terms of coming together. But don’t use the excuse of past relationships when someone is trying to hold you accountable in regards to the time they spend with you. If you’re not emotionally ready, don’t waste anyone’s time male or female. This is why I love Deanne’s comments because as a woman she reminds them of the notion of being ready when a potential husband comes along. She doesn’t put it all on men. Many women want men to do all the work. As an adult woman you have to do your job as well instead of saying “men are supposed to do this and men are supposed to do that and men are supposed to take care of women and blah blah blah blah.” It’s funny how women can tick off every responsibility in regards to men, yet when it comes to their responsibilities men, they act as if there are none except sex. If you think sex is the only thing men want, then you’re sadly mistaken as a woman. You can’t sex your way into a man’s heart. You’d be surprised how far a baked apple pie would go with a man. It will go further than a quick sexual escapade when it comes to a man looking for a longterm investment. This is why so many women are so far from the marriage life. I watched a female on youtube claim how she has such a list that excludes men of all walks of life because in her mind she was such a catch. Even though she was physically attractive, she was a dunce. And what made it worse, towards the end of the video, she admitted to having a child out-of-wedlock at 20. WHich really illuminated why she wanted a man with so many accomplishments and money: she was looking for a man to bail her out of her low economic position. It’s funny how the most irresponsible women morally and emotionally) tend to be the most demanding in terms of a man’s economic position. Many women with children put pressure on men to produce for them and their children. However, why didn’t you women put this same pressure on the baby daddy? Why did he get a free pass whereas the new guy, who you should be grateful is giving you a chance (many men will not date women with kids especially out-of-wedlock cause I’m one of them) to be with, has to work extremely hard for you. It seems like women out here are enslaving men to make money for them in exchange for sexual freedom. These are not women who are looking for marriage: these are women who are looking for men to clean up their mess. I think if you are a woman who has had a child out-of-wedlock, you should be extremely thankful that any man is willing to take you on and your children, instead of acting as if a man should be glad you looked at him because you have something between your legs. People get upset at male pimps, but don’t say anything about the female ones who try to use marriage against men to make them feel responsible for their compromised position when it’s the irresponsible women who are responsible for their position because they definitely then require marriage from the men they procreated with. Now, all of a sudden, responsibility is required on a man’s part. And what makes it interesting even more is that, with all these demands females make on men, they would make it seem that this way of thinking breeds success. If so then why are so many women questioning why they aren’t married? I’m 34 and most women I’ve come across in my life don’t even have an engagement under their belt, let alone a marriage. Was married at 22 and I can definitely say a woman didn’t get marriage out of me making all these demands. I’m bringing her into my life, I make demands based on what’s good for a meaningful marriage, not on the arrogance based on how I look. I’m attractive and even i know that that means nothing in terms of co-existing with a woman. Many women, who get on here with all their arrogant laden defenses of women in general, have never been married. If you are a woman pass 25, and never been married, you might want to check your world-view because your world-view has gotten you more lonely nights in your bed and don’t think casual flings count towards committed relationships (marriage). Obviously this female bravado has not worked for you so you might want to actually follow the words from that Bible you thump every Sunday, instead of being disingenuous snobs who get their grandiose notions of themselves based on the jobs they hold, instead of being the respectful women God intended them to be. College degrees don’t teach you how to be a woman: only God and women who raise you do.
I just want to point out that my father would always encourage my sister and myself to be strong and independent women. He did not raise us to submissive. I can’t imagine a father that would ever encourage his daughter to become a submissive wife and tell her she has to be odedient towards her husband. My father would always tell me that a real man will accept my independence and only a weak man would want a weak submissive woman. No one can control me unless I allow it to happen.
It is critical, of course, for a woman to have the patience and wisdom to not enter a relationshop with a man who does not have the characteristics of a Godly leader… one can’t tell by the looks, or the wallet. It takes time, careful observation, and much prayer, and unfortunately, those skills cannot be developed overnight just because an attractive-looking prospect comes into view. We as women have so much to do on ourselves before a “real man” arrives…
all that is dandy when you have a man who can take the lead. and if not a born leader is not too macho to take cues.
Sister Muhammad,
May your days be continously Blessed. You are a Breath of Fresh Air in this musty denizen we call Existence. Thank You for being the STRONG BLACK UNDERSTANDING WOMAN that you are. Thank you for acknowledgin what so many fail to. Thank you….thank you!! These accolades come from a STRONG BLACK MAN well aware of his Rightful Place.
Sister Nojma Muhammad is smart, full of wisdom and very knowledgeable, I know several black family to break apart because of this very reason, then years latter the women [wife] realize what she have done and the mistake she made and is sorry for destroying her family.
Sorry,forgot to add; from observing numerous black relationships that have this problem sometimes it is a trust issue. If a woman feels like a man can not be trusted to be faithful (don’t ask me why shed get married to a man she can not trust I have no idea) she finds it difficult to trust him with major decisions because she doesn’t think he has the family’s best interests at heart. Whether he is unfaithful or he makes her feel insecure (going out of the room to answer the phone) she finds it difficult to trust him because she feels she may be ‘replaced’ some time in the future.not a good situation.
I do agree with the article btw, 100%. I just wanted to offer some insight into why some women do these dasterdly things.
Love this place!
Just one question, are the men really ready and looking forward to taking on the RESPONSIBILITIES that come with being the head or are they looking forward to reaping the BENEFITS?
Also do they prepare themselves for that role? Do they seek to better themselves and acquire knowledge that would make sure they are and will be making informed and well-thought out decisions? Or do they think that just because they are tired of juggling diff women and want to hang-up that player/pimp jacket that they are automatically ready? I usually meet the latter more than the former.
Really fall back!
We’ve spent so much time trying to define manhood/masculinity for men without understanding that our definitions did not emerge out of a desire for men to be the best they could be for themselves…rather our definition has been rooted in a definition that makes them the best they can be for us. Our role in the social construction of “what it is to be a man” has played a critical role in the masculine role conflict and its relationship with the psychological distress that our men experience.. the research indicates that men are 5x more likely than women to committed suicide, that depression is severely underreported by men (due largely to poor help seeking behavior hymen shaped by socially constructed ideas of masculinity) and many many more issues. The ones that have stood to benefit most from “telling men what it is to be a man”is us. When men don’t “meet” that definitiin we emasculate them with terms like “man up”… ladies we should