(ThyBlackMan.com) Of all the doctrines in scripture that are vital, one of the most important is the doctrine concerning Hell. People often have their own opinion about Hell and the afterlife, causing many to be confused and deceived about what happens to people after death. Some even doubt that there is an afterlife. They believe that there is either a place of beauty and peace after death or nothing at all. In other words, they think that there is either a place for “good” people or nothing at all. How can there be a good place for “good” people after death but no place for “bad” people?
When it comes to the doctrine of Hell or questions about the afterlife, one should go to the source of truth about the subject, the Bible, the Word of the Living God. In God’s Word, there are no dubious, incoherent claims about the afterlife. God is evident and precise concerning what will happen to believers and non-believers alike after they die. To learn the truth about Hell, we must consider the source of truth on the matter.
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. (Eccl 12:14)
Whether an individual is good or evil is not based upon men’s subjective reasoning but upon Biblical standards. Romans 3:10 says, “As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one.” If any man is to be justified as being good, it has to be through accepting God’s sacrifice for sin via the person of His Son Jesus Christ.
There is a judgment for the righteous and a judgment for the wicked. The righteous will receive rewards for their work done on earth, based on 1Corinthians 3:13-15.
“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.”
There is a different story for the judgment of the unrighteous. The Bible in Heb. 9:27 says,
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”
Judgment here is a decision based on right or wrong and a sentence of condemnation resulting in damnation. As soon as a person dies and their soul becomes separated from their physical body, a sentence has passed. Ezek. 18:4 says:
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
2Cor. 5:10 says:
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad”
Jesus spoke these words in John 5:28:
“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
Those that have done evil are judged or sentenced to a place of eternal damnation. It will occur in a literal, unimaginable, unmistakable location called Hell. Hell becomes the residence of eternal torment for those that have lived in sin and rebellion to God’s will and refused to accept Christ as their Savior. One final note about Hell. As awful as it is, even Hell itself will be tossed into the Lake of Fire. Rev. 20:14 says:
“And death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
This is the truth about Hell and the expectation of those that die without Christ. All must avoid it at all cost, and residing there can be prevented through surrendering to Jesus Christ. I pray that all will receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and avoid that awful place.
Staff Writer; C. E. Davis
This man of God can also be found online over at; InfiniteTruth Devotion.
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I would like to share God’s promise to us, His PRIZED creation.
The “GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST” can best be summed up in the words of JESUS when He made the “GREATEST PROMISE EVER,” which is that He will draw ALL people unto Himself. (John 12:32)
My name is Alan Finch. JESUS became my Lord and Saviour in April of 1976.
I spent several years diligently searching the Scriptures to uncover what really made Biblical sense in regards to God’s true message to us of what really is “The Good News of the Gospel of Christ” which I did not properly understand for most of my many years as a Christian.
My 1st 38 years as a Christian, I believed the unscriptural teaching about that there is going to be eternal torment for multitudes and multitudes of people. I then began to seriously question that teaching. I then decided to do an in-depth study of the Bible concerning this issue, and the Scriptures revealed to me that I had believed a horrible lie for all those years.
The Lake of Fire is not a physical Lake of Fire, but is a metaphor for a Spiritual Lake of Fire from God’s Spirit for the purpose of “RESTORATION.” God is a God of “ETERNAL RESTORATION,” not a God of “eternal destruction.”
In Acts 3:21 God promises that there shall be a “RESTORATION” of ALL things! What is there not to understand about this wonderful promise that God has made to us?
The overall theme of the Bible is that God’s ultimate plan for ALL mankind is to restore, not destroy in an eternal Lake of Fire or eternal annihilation!
In John 12:32 JESUS clearly states that He is going to draw ALL people to Himself! Not a portion of mankind, but ALL of mankind.
In John 6:44 JESUS clearly states that nobody can come to Him except the Father draws that person to Him. For those who are true Christians, WE MUST NOT KID OURSELVES IN THE FACT THAT WE ONLY CAME TO JESUS BECAUSE GOD’S SPIRIT DREW US TO JESUS!
In the present time, and in the future, God has His own timing when He will draw each individual to Himself.
Addressing the issue of the belief in eternal annihilation, the Lord clearly tells us in Ecclesiastes 3:11 that He has planted eternity in our hearts. God has made us living Spirits. It is impossible for our Spirit to be destroyed.
GOD HAS NOT FAILED IN HIS ORIGINAL PLAN FOR ALL OF MANKIND WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE ETERNAL TORMENT OR ETERNAL ANNIHILATION. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO FAIL IN ANYTHING!
God worked out His plan in past Ages, God is working out His plan in the present Age that we are now living in, and God will work out His plan in future Ages to come.
I have spent the last several years in Biblically expounding in a 32 page document that I have put together on the truth of there being no eternal suffering in a Lake of Fire for anyone. I have just explained the real LOVE of God that today’s Church just simply does not seem to grasp.
After spending several years of diving deep into the Scriptures to uncover the Biblical truth on this subject, I would like to share these Biblical truths with others so that they can experience the same joy that I experienced which set me free from what I had previously believed for most of my life.
If anyone would be interested in a copy of my document, email me at: (candy33alan@aol.com), and I will email you a copy.
The Bible does teach God’s Followers to judge others, meaning evaluate their motives & results of their conduct.
Corinthians 15:33 Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits.
How will you know they are Bad Associates? Do you not have to Judge or Evaluate them.
The Judgment We are not to voice is their final reward or lack of it, for maybe they will change. We can associate their actions with those God Hates or God Loves.
John 4:Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.
Does this not also say that there are False Worshipers? Yes, Every Religion but one is False Worship, Apostate, the Anti-Christ. How do you tell the difference? You must judge their conduct. Jesus taught this in Matthew 7, he stated there are 2 figurative roads, most everyone, if not all, are ont the broad path leading to destruction, however very few are daily walking as a footstep follower of Christ.
7:13,14 “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.
Tell me if we are to judge these to learn from them?
7:15 “Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.16 By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?17 Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.18 A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.19 Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.20 Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.”
Christians, those who believe or call Jesus Lord, are listed below:
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
The Wise will Judge the Works of Churches. Do They preach the Good News of God’s Kingdom to everyone on Earth? Are their members trying to preach to every adult in their state, county or neighborhood? Love for neighbor requires a follower of Christ to preach. Their ministers should take the lead in doing so, even when no one else is willing. For God is justly warning everyone that is about to judge all. If they are not going door to door, they are not showing love for their neighbors.
7:24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these sayings of mine and does them will be like a discreet man who built his house on the rock.25 And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in, for it had been founded on the rock.26 Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.27 And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house, and it caved in, and its collapse was great.”28 When Jesus finished these sayings, the effect was that the crowds were astounded at his way of teaching,29 for he was teaching them as a person having authority, and not as their scribes.
Judging is Necessary for a person to find out if they are in the Way or the World.
John 3:16 – “For God so loved the world that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
END OF SUBJECT!
People who have been taught BELIEF is all you need have been MISLED, The Bible is written so man may know God, what pleases Him, how to worship Him in Mind & How to live in harmony with Him.
The Bible explains His legal answer to Adam’s Rebellion ie Christ sinless life in exchange for Adam’s and God’s Kingdom which will teach men how to draw closer to God until they are sinless in their daily lives.
The Following show it takes more than believing, for a man like Adam believed, Satan knew & believed, the demons knew & believed, yet they wanted something else. James 2:17
Exodus 20: Then God spoke all these words:2 “I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.3 You must not have any other gods besides me.4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.5 You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of those who hate me,6 but showing loyal love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.7 “You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way, for Jehovah will not leave unpunished the one who takes up His name in a worthless way.8 “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it sacred.9 You are to labor and do all your work for six days,10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do any work, neither you nor your son nor your daughter nor your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your foreign resident who is inside your settlements.11 For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and he began to rest on the seventh day. That is why Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day and made it sacred.12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live a long time in the land that Jehovah your God is giving you.13 “You must not murder.14 “You must not commit adultery.15 “You must not steal.16 “You must not testify falsely when you are a witness against your fellow man.17 “You must not desire your fellow man’s house. You must not desire your fellow man’s wife nor his slave man nor his slave girl nor his bull nor his donkey nor anything that belongs to your fellow man.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality,10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.11 And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.
I would like to start by saying I was raised in the Roman Catholic tradition but had many jewish friends growing up and later friends of many branches of faith. I believe that all of these branches are stems that lead to the same trunk. I have studied different faith traditions and found many similarities even in texts dating back more then 3000 years before Christ. I have read many books that have said that Christianity has distored truth on this topic specifically, the Jewish people I know do not believe in Hell. I also found it very distressing as a teen to have different christian denominations telling me that I was destined for hell along with others for things like not being fully submerged in water. Personally I feel that if we believe our God is a God of love why would he condem his children to eternal suffering, where is the justice there for children that often dont even fully know themselves let alone what is the correct spirtual path.
For those struggling with mental illness and I have worked in behavioral health for many years these images and fearful language and that of even telling people that they need to be exercised is seriously damaging. I have read different translations and I also feel that we need to always look at the context verses are written in historically and what it meant to the writers and people of that time, not coloring it with a later vantage point that was likely used for control of people by way of fear, we have certainly seen much of this over the last two thousand years. I think its important we understand God is love and that Jesus paid that price whether his children even fully understand what was done. Certainly believers should turn from evil when accepting the gift but the price has been paid whether they do a good job or not, its not by our own power or means that we are saved.
I have been blessed to see the beauty across many different faiths and seeing the goodness there, I dont think its an accident that we are lead to serving others to truly be happy in this world, I think God made it that way intentionally and that He uses all these things, all the religions of the world, and more then we could ever know for good and to serve the purpose of love and teaching compassion. Sure people can stray and cause great suffering in doing so but through that dont we learn more.. by making mistakes and learning from them, we learn so much faster when we do.
All I can say is I personally would be more then mildly depresses if so many brothers and sisters would be sent to eternal suffering for the crime of being human, I think realistically its very clear that we have been forgiven, that is a gift, but we can also share the gift by simply living with compassion, forgiveness, and to serve one another. If we all did this what a wonderful world it would be! And so many faith traditions have taped into serving in love which is the underlying message in it all, the two most important commandments, love God, and love your neighbor / all other people whether you feel they deserve it or not.
I think standing by these two commandments is the most important thing, I dont think it matters if your Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Islamic, Native American, or of another faith, Gods gift is the same, his Son literally died for All People, Period. Its for everyone, every person whether they do good works or not, as far as what happens how it all works, I dont think any of us will fully understand that till were on the other side, but we should be teaching love and being the hands and feet of Jesus, and that can be done no matter the doctrine, if you love another, you are loving Jesus.
Good and bad dont send you to HELL. John 14:6 I am the way the truth and the life. NO one comes to the Father except through me. JESUS CHRIST. ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN.
God is NOT INVITING PEOPLE to HEAVEN. Christ & the Apostles were teaching that a precise number would be raised to Heaven to Serve as Kings & Priest over the people on Earth. See Revelation 21:3-5, Isaiah 25:8, 33:24,65:21-25.
Revelation 7:1 After this I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, so that no wind could blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.2 And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrise, having a seal of the living God; and he called with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea,3 saying: “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.”4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel:
Revelation 14 Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.
The Hebrews believed in a fleshly resurrection. Daniel 12:13 “But as for you, go on to the end. You will rest, but you will stand up for your lot at the end of the days.”
The End of Days is the End of mans Governments at Armageddon. People will survive Armageddon and stay on Earth.
Daniel 12:“During that time Mi?cha·el will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape,
Revelation 7:14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Angels with Christ & 144,000 will descend from the Heavens upon the Wicked, while protecting the Great Crowd who may never die.
Matthew 13:Then after dismissing the crowds, he went into the house. His disciples came to him and said: “Explain to us the illustration of the weeds in the field.”37 In response he said: “The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man;38 the field is the world. As for the fine seed, these are the sons of the Kingdom, but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one,39 and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels.40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things.41 The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness,42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be.43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let the one who has ears listen.
First: Obedience to the Law of the Christ is Mandatory, Meaning OBEDIENCE is Important, this fact is taught from Genesis to Revelation. Matthew 22:37-39.
If you believe in the Christ, then you would be obedient to Matthew 28:19,20. A Christian by definition is a foot step follower of Christ’ actions & beliefs. Saying I Believe is meaningless to him, actions speak louder than beliefs, James 2:17 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead.
What Works did Christ do? He prayed to his God & Father, Jehovah. He Obeyed the Law. He Preached the Truth door after door, city after city. He sent people out by 2’s to preach the Good News of God’s Kingdom. A foot-step follower will be doing the same in my neighborhood and yours and to the Entire inhabited Earth. Matthew 24:14 14 And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
WHO GO TO HEAVEN? People who Believed and Worked as Christ did. Today a war is occurring in Russia & Ukraine between Orthodox Christians/ Churches, Would Christ murder his followers? Catholics Elevate men as superiors by naming them FATHERS, yet that conflicts Christ’ command Not to do this, the Blind lead the Blind.
Are you Sealed or Saved as someone who was exemplary in serving God?
ONLY 144,000 who serve will be chosen to go to Heaven. Revelation 7:4, And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel.
Revelation 14:1 Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.
Out of Billions a Little Flock will serve as Kings & Priest over the people left on Earth, John 10:16 .
The Dead will be resurrected to Earth in the Vast Majority,
The Living are choosing Life or Death by listening to this Truth or Rejecting it.
John 4:23,24,Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 8:32,
17:17 Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.
I grew up in a conservative evangelical environment which included the doctrines of eternal damnation ‘once saved always saved’. As I struggled to learn about what to believe and how to believe it, two men to whom I listened were J. Vernon McGee of Through the Bible Radio and Chuck Smith of Calvery Chapel. Both taught from the understanding of an eternal soul headed to Heaven or Hell. I came to terms with the concepts and made my profession of faith in Jesus as my savior and God.
In my sixties, I learned another line of faith, if you will, and I now agree with it. I am not eternal. I now believe I live in an environment which has been corrupted for so long and to such an extent that, while ‘overcoming’ and ‘winning the race’ is possible I have ‘counted the cost’ and have decided I am not up to the task. And yet, I am not in despair. I am expectant and hopeful. My hope and new faith come from the same source as my old one.
I anticipate my death. I am old enough that it is more likely I will die before all the apocalyptic stuff occurs. I then expect to be given a renewed life in an environment free from the corrupt nature of this present one, an environment where I will have the opportunity to learn how to live ‘free from sin’, an environment where I will be accountable for what I have ‘sown’ in my present life but with the opportunity for reconciliation and right relations with God and my fellow man.
I give credit the folks at the Christian Questions website for this new understanding. I have more to learn and understand than I will accomplish in this present life, but I look forward to the next stage of my journey. And about Jesus; I know who I have believed and am persuaded he is able to keep safe that which I’ve entrusted to him until that time in my life.
All who have some faith in God are to be commended. To gain any reward a person must gain accurate knowledge then provide some works in harmony with God’s Will leading to dedication & baptism. Acts 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
The website link at jw.org provides many articles that will help you to draw closer to God.
We know One God inspired the Bible, There He selected one people to make Himself known to the World. He brought Christ from that Kingdom to further build knowledge of Himself and what is expected of every man. By This Oneness we can truthfully assume that He would have One Global People doing His Will by proclaiming the Good News of His Kingdom to All the Inhabited Earth.
We Learn the same knowledge of Truth and Proclaim it Globally.
There is One Almighty and One Truth. The Eternal Invisible Human Soul is a non-Biblical teaching, so is Hellfire or that God is inviting all to Heaven.
He Created Adam & Eve to live here forever as groomers of paradise. This is what the Jews were taught and believed. See Daniel 12:13.
I invite you to join us in thought.Read or Listen https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/
I grew up in a conservative evangelical environment which included the doctrines of eternal damnation ‘once saved always saved’. As I struggled to learn about what to believe and how to believe it, two men to whom I listened were J. Vernon McGee of Through the Bible Radio and Chuck Smith of Calvery Chapel. Both taught from the understanding of an eternal soul headed to Heaven or Hell. I came to terms with the concepts and made my profession of faith in Jesus as my savior and God.
In my sixties, I learned another line of faith, if you will, and I now agree with it. I am not eternal. I now believe I live in an environment which has been corrupted for so long and to such an extent that, while ‘overcoming’ and ‘winning the race’ is possible I have ‘counted the cost’ and have decided I am not up to the task. And yet, I am not in despair. I am expectant and hopeful. My hope and new faith come from the same source as my old one.
I anticipate my death. I am old enough that it is more likely I will die before all the apocalyptic stuff occurs. I then expect to be given a renewed life in an environment free from the corrupt nature of this present one, an environment where I will have the opportunity to learn how to live ‘free from sin’, an environment where I will be accountable for what I have ‘sown’ in my present life but with the opportunity for reconciliation and right relations with God and my fellow man.
I give credit the folks at the Christian Questions website for this new understanding. I have more to learn and understand than I will accomplish in this present life, but I look forward to the next stage of my journey. And about Jesus; I know who I have believed and am persuaded he is able to keep safe that which I’ve entrusted to him until that time in my life.
Jesus never used self-survival or the fear of hell to turn souls to God. Perfect love casts out all fear, the Bible says. Jesus gave up all to save us regardless of what His final outcome would be. self-survival should have no place in our relationship with God. While we can have the assurance of salvation, Jesus did not have that commodity. Not until the resurrection did He know victory was won. Presentations such as this demean the love of God and His plan for saving us. One does not use fear to win the heart of the one they desire to marry, but love. Only a relationship based on love and full commitment to one another will lead to a successful marriage. So too it should be with God. He is fully committed to us, should He not be our consuming focus rather than a consuming hell? As Jesus did, we are to leave the final outcome in the hands of the Father. After all, He loves us so much that he gave His Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. So, to hell with hell and lift up Jesus instead!
Carl Sagan comment (while dying of cancer) stated following fact.
“Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”.
Has atheists and all others checkmated.
And HE who created Hell details some of that reality, ref. below.
NY Times bestseller (naturally one would need to read bibliography in said best seller).
https://www.bing.com/search?q=23+minutes+in+hell&cvid=5d94990cdbc743da92daae4de8550c73&pglt=43&FORM=ANSPA1&PC=U531
Atheism rationally self-nullifying. For individual to logically claim non-existence of God is agnosticism – profess he doesn’t know if God exists. Soon as an individual asserts “atheism”, atheist falls into rational dilemma: no finite man can prove (NO) God, outside limits of his personal experience/knowledge, God may exist. To be rationally consistent atheist, one must know everything & be everywhere at all times. This requires omniscience & omnipresence; attributes only God has within His ontic attributes.
Only means he can prove God doesn’t exist is to take upon himself status of God, which is rationally impossible & self-stultifying in human usage. “Atheist” is required to prove God does not exist. Christians not required to prove HE does. Once “Atheist” dies physically, question is Non sequitur (ref. Lk 16: 20ff). When a human professes “there is no God”. It automatically means that individuals internal thought process claims ontic attributes of “God”. Subsequently those of us who interact with said individual – can ignore them.
As Carl Sagan said, “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”.
In other words, this GOD who says HE exists – has ALL arrogant/ignorant humans “checkmated” since they are not omniscient/omnipresent/omnipotent/exist eternally et. al.
Anyway the fact is highlighted in the text but I had been reading in a way more summary. But I have grown spirit.
Jesus commanded His true followers to never judge “others”(Matthew 7: 1,2) until they were “perfect” (Matthew 5:48)
He also warned about zealot religious fundamentalists. Jesus said in John 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man and in John 5:22 Jesus also taught John 5:22
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Yet it seems there still remains a small, yet very vocal faction of Christian fundamentalists who revel in condemning “others” to Hell, completely ignoring Jesus’s warning that “For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again”.
Understanding the SOUL is the complete being, Adam BECAME a LIVING SOUL when God blew into him. When Adam died, all he was died. There is nothing that survives death. When a person dies, they are FORGIVEN of their sins, so there is no judgment of the dead. Daniel 12: Daniel was told about a Christ becoming King and a fleshly resurrection and receiving “his lot”.
Christ came and made a covenant with 144,000 of his disciples for a Kingdom, they would be raised and given a spirit’s body. The rest of the dead in God’s memory will be like Daniel, resurrected during the 1000 year Judgment day, taught the Truth, then IF they live or die will depend on their actions then,, for they are resurrected without sin. John 5:25-29. Christ,a sinless man was unjustly sent to hell or death for parts of 3 days, then God resurrected him and installed all his memory into a spirit’s body and gave him IMMORTALITY and placed him at the right hand of God.
We alive today can be of those who never die in the flesh as we are among those who survive the Great Day of God when Christ returns as King with the 144,000 to rule as Kings and Priest over the Earth.See Daniel 12:1 & Revelation 7:14. God will restore perfection to their flesh & they will never get sick or die. Isaiah 25:8,33:24,65:21-25,Revelation 21:3-5
This Good News is being preached in all the inhabited Earth as foretold at Matthew 24:14 & Mark 13:10 by a United People of millions of the obedient disciples of Christ. Matthew 28:19,20.
The Immortal Soul doctrine is false, the Hell doctrine is false,God would never torture someone forever. Death is the punishment, Life Here in sinless flesh has always been the reward for most of the dead, for Abraham,Noah, King David,Moses , John the Baptist and we today, for there will be a restoration of Eden, physically and spiritually. See Acts 3:21,Matthew 19:28. Other than the 144,000, God is not inviting people to Heaven, He created them there as angels, He created the Earth for flesh, bt Christ, we reach out for the Life Adam through away in his disobedience, this is the Truth only made known in the Last Days. Daniel 12:4.
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I love the comments this has sparked. Yes, this article and the subject of hell in the Bible has not been well researched. I agree the writer is immersed in a belief system he grew up in or a church drilled in out of ignorance. The Bible is not all literal. The Bible includes several different kinds of speech to teach a point. Sadly, the writer will probably never allow himself to be open to truth because they are taught not to question. But it is through questioning that truth in the Bible can be found.
Have the believers in hell ever wondered why God wanted us to clothe, give food, heal, help the suffering of people only to cast them into a fiery hell for eternity?
I grew up in evangelical thought and went to an evangelical seminary, but I once prayed a prayer asking God to teach me about Him, not what man teaches. It led me out of ignorance and though I will never know all, I try to keep an open mind so I will learn God’s truth, not religions.
The question you pose isn’t very clear. You make it sound like God threw believers in hell after they clothed, fed, healed, ect. That’s not the case, so I’m wondering if you’ve miswritten your point. God accuses those at judgment of not doing those things. The point of the book Malachi is how man took God’s commandments and twisted them into a form of power and control over other people and ignored the virtues originally intended and written in God’s laws. He then states that because they made their own rules to follow, he will judge them on those rules as well as his. This is why we are not to judge, lest we also are judged.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-a-soul/
The Dead have no thoughts.
God inspired the wisest imperfect man, King Solomon, to right this truth in the Bible. Eccl:9:5 For the living know that they will die, “but the dead know nothing at all”, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
“but the dead know nothing at all,” We should not call God a liar by arguing with Him about it or denying what He clearly states.
Every thing should be established by 2 witnesses: Eccl.9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.
Genesis 3:19In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”
Does The DUST think? Does the DUST fly about as a spirit being.
Psalm 115:17 The dead do not praise Jah; Nor do any who go down into the silence of death.
Psalm 146:4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; “On that very day his thoughts perish.”
These verses are the basic belief God taught the Hebrews, it has not changed! Jesus was dead for parts of 3 days, powerless in death, until God raised him as a spirit, clothing him with a fleashly body similar to the one hung on the stake. He was a spirit, in a spirit body then, but clothed with an imitation of a mans body until he taken up to Heaven.Did the body fall to the ground? No, like other angel appearances, it was not a real body, as a person born human is a body with thought.
God created angels to live in Heaven, He created Man to live on Earth, Forever.
Psalms 37:10,11,29 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more;
You will look at where they were,And they will not be there.
11 But the meek will possess the earth,
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
29 The righteous will possess the earth,
And they will live forever on it.
Great Post! It’s very useful for me and thanks for sharing.
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Shell, you and the people like you, are the reason why everybody thinks Christians like me are crazy. you really need to take a step back, and think and stop regurgitating the watered-down, Americanized version of the bible, you need to do some deep study, and maybe a history lesson in the original text. It is not just the 66 books that you have only been reading its closer to 88, or maybe you have but just lack the understanding.
Look into the history of Christianity and you will learn about a little place called Ethiopia who still use the original 88 texts that shed a lot of light into heaven and hell and a lot more, that has been left out over the years by Religion because man always has to control something.
I will leave you with this God does not want a bunch of robots going to him in the interest of self-preservation he set us free from that, through Jesus to give use a direct pipeline to the Father, it’s an all-inclusive message. Rember the debt has been paid for all but who shall believe, shall not die but live forever. Man does not have anything eternal without Christ, so how can you burn in eternal torment without being eternal? find me one just one word of Jesus or God saying a Man shall receive eternal life just to burn. people are smelling the dogmatic hypocrisy of religion a mile away I don’t follow religion I have a relationship and that is what Christianity is, I do have Love for you, and I hope this will motivate you to seek out more, and for the people who also commented I’m sorry that you have to deal with this I hope this does not push you away and put a bad taste in your mouth because Christians like me are out there we are not all crazy and all are welcome and I mean all.
God is a Loving God and does not see color, we all have the same opportunity. To live our lives inthe way God has told us or when we stand in front of Jesus on Judgement day.Jesus took our punishment,and that means all of Gods people.
I for one would like to thank you for putting the truth out there. All these peps who love to think they know better then God. They hide behind legalism with many words. Where there are many words there usually lies deceptions. They speak of love but know nothing of it. Love puts others wellbeing above your own. It is a sacrifice for another because you understand that with love stands honor. God made it very simple. Accept a free gift that cost God everything and live.
Wow Elias, you speak as if you know Shell personally. Calling someone ignorant and stupid because you disagree with them just shows your own intelligence level. Maybe think outside the box or better yet think for yourself and do the research from multiple sources vs just saying “because the bible says so”. If you are a representative of a christian then I want nothing to do with it. Guess I will be seeing you in your so called lake of fire. Only thing is, I’ll be in my lounge chair with my mai tai watching you scream in agony. Fun times. See you there…wait, it doesn’t exist.
First off: none of those scriptures actually spoke of a Hell. Hell didn’t exist in the bible. It only came into existence after a man (who I feel a strong urge to tell you was not a straight, heterosexual man) wrote about it in a book, that was actually meant to be taken in a fictional sense. Plus, the catholic church ADMITTED to making it up, so you can say whatever you want, but your big man already told on you.
However, the book that DID invent hell was written by a man who mostly was using it as a tool to mentally decompress after being treated horribly by a certain few people. He wrote several layers of this terrible place where he literally (and I do mean in a literal, book-sense) tortured (not physically) these people in a healthy manner to vent it out. Dante’s Inferno is nothing but a work of fiction (and it’s certainly not the retelling of Orpheus’s journey into the Underworld). However, once he published this book, the church took it upon themselves to use this work of fiction in order to sway the masses that had withstood the shift from their old beliefs into the new, to “follow” this “god”.
Of which I also feel compelled to tell you was stolen from another religion much like the one you pretend to emulate. Sadly, this group had already been treated like dogs in every country they found themselves in, tortured and driven to the worst parts of the cities they sought refuge, and had two of their temples burned to the ground simply by what they believed in. Which was basically a purely theoretical telling of all of their trials and tribulations written down in allegorical stories to mirror what their people had gone through already and worked to prefect it through debate. The Jewish belief was never meant to be taken LITERALLY. And taking a stolen deity from another religion, twisting the words and calling it “just” is honestly the most diabolical thing I can think of.
What really grinds my gears is when I see this crap in 2022. We are in a rather remarkable age of Mental Health Growth and Self-Healing. It’s honestly shameful that anyone would think that they HAVE to follow a religion, because otherwise they’ll be tortured for the rest of… Well, EVER. That’s the most manipulative, and destructive kind of possession I’ve ever heard. And yes, it’s possession, not “love”. Love doesn’t have ultimatums. Love isn’t abusive and hypocritical (hypocritical example is: “You can’t kill, but if I decide to drop a roof over my believers, that’s MY will”). Honestly.
My last point would be that everyone likes to say what “god” does or doesn’t agree with. The first point I’d like to make to this statement is that is the literal definition of taking his name in vain. God doesn’t need you to speak for him. Apparently, he can speak for himself. And specifically, people who like to preach about hell ALSO enjoy preaching about how gay people (alphabet mafia, LGBTQIA+) are going there. And I would like to remind you that the only actual verse that talks about this is the verse that says “Man shall not lie with boy” which the word WAS boy, until the church didn’t enjoy getting flack for being pedophiles and in the 40s, they decided to change the word from boy to man. One little word, and suddenly you have people that are supposed to be loving their neighbors (no exceptions) to hating people who just love people who happen to be the same biological sex. So. Christian of you.
You speak out of sheer ignorance and stupidity, Shell. You are nothing more than a a product of this degenerate and apostate generation that likes to twist the Scriptures to fit your own perverted agenda. You shouldn’t hate on people for simply conveying information that happens to be the truth.
eviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Timothy 1:10
The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
Romans 1:26-28
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
Mark 10:6-9
But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.
Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
Good set of quotes. But I don’t see any mention of the bad guys receiving eternal life and being tormented for eternity. I see people being punished for sin and not receiving eternal life. I see people being punished with a second death.
What an odd second death which is not really a death but eternal life in torment?
Sounds like the serpent’s lie in Eden…. “You shall not surely die….”
The DEAD have no thoughts, their is no eternal life in a person that leaves when the flesh dies.
God states death is the end, men have agreed with the lie of EDEN, You certainly will not die.
Genesis 3:4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die.
5 For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad.”
At DEATH: You DO NOT Become A Spirit Like God.
ECCL.9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.
Humans are like animals at death, Death is the end for those living before the Great Day of God, for a Pre-Judgment is being made today. Whereas those who died in the past will be resurrected to human life again, taught the truth and given a chance to accept the ransom and exercise obedience to the principles of God.
Adam & Eve could have lived forever as groomers of the Earth. God has put eternity in our hearts, no healthy person wants to die, human death is UN-Natural.
Eccl.3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish.
19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile.
The Bottom Line is that Death is the End of All Life. God will resurrect many from death to life as humans. If they try to please God, they will continue to live, if not they will no longer be there.
Proverbs 2:21 For only the upright will reside in the earth, And the blameless will remain in it. 22 As for the wicked, they will be cut off from the earth, And the treacherous will be torn away from it.
ETERNAL LIFE IS IMPLANTED IN US, Fore-Knowledge We Will DIE IS THE TORMENT, We will all stand before God, He will give us great joy of life or the torment that we will not.
You are right Shell GOD CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF as I posted not my words but HIS.