(ThyBlackMan.com) Its amazing to me that no matter what kind of discussion is being had regarding hip hop Eminem is a part of the discussion. Granted I like some of his music, and I value his contribution to hip hop, yet I often feel we tend to have an issue with labels. Flow, or delivery, production, and lyricism are not the same thing. If we are discussing lyrics and who we consider great why is it that influence and delivery are put in its place? There are too many times I see a greatest lyricist list and Eminem, who has awesome delivery, is listed in the top 10 over rappers that have more diverse word game.
There is nothing wrong with acknowledging Eminem’s place in hip hop, but just as I don’t give artist like Lil Uzi Vert a piece of a look regarding lyrical content I won’t say Eminem is a better lyricist than Lupe Fiasco…or Slick Rick. Lately I have seen arguments that question the lyrical potency of both Big & Tupac seating Eminem over them…seating him over Nas even and that is ridiculous.
There have been white rap artists, but not many as revered as Eminem, and black artist vouch for him. This is no problem at all, as I stated he is a solid artist, and there is no problem with saying he’s one of the best. However, lyrically in the area of both diverse content, and the depth of that content he isn’t better than Nas, Rakim, Tupac, Big…he isn’t better than Andre3000.
When we are just focused on lyrical content there are so many that deserve his spot in any top 10 list. But, truth be told he’s usually the only white guy in the discussion and its time some of us admit that this alone causes us not to judge him as hard as we would our own. When we discuss lyricism it really shouldn’t be a popularity contest, though we know it is, it should be simple…let’s look at the lyrics. Instead we end up having a discussion about delivery, and there are many cleaver deliveries in hip hop that stand about Eminem…in my humble opinion Andre3000 is one of them.
Lupe Fiasco may not be a favorite of many, and both Kendrick Lamar and J Cole are newer to the scene but all three are better lyricist than Eminem. I am aware than some will be quick to defend Eminem as fans and I respect that. However, I just don’t feel we are always completely honest when it comes to the lyricism discussion.
There are some that can justify Jay-Z not being in their top 10, and if we are talking about lyrics alone I would be open to hear their position. Love Eminem, but he doesn’t make my top 10 for the greatest lyricists at all.
Staff Writer; Rap Guru
eminem is among the top five make research boss
Can we all just admit Eminem is Top 5 dead or alive.
His catalog speaks for itself. And to top it off, by my numbers the best selling “Rap” artist of all time.
**also forgot to add, Eminem can sing his own hooks ( but so can 50Cent) and he does good studio production. “Cleaning Out my closet” could have been one of his biggest hits, but the vitriol, outright hatred and disrespect he displayed to his mother kinda made me lose points with him…
The problem with all this is that ranking shit is weak. How do you reduce an artist’s work to a number and walk away have done anything useful. Give me the why’s and keep the integers.
I’ve thought long and hard on this exact subject. Mainly where does Eminem (I call him Marshall, cause that’s what his momma named him) fit in as it relates to the all time greats!….first let me say Big & Pac are in a class by themselves I think we can all agree on that for the most part….then there’s the class 1A Tier…guys like you cats have already mentioned, Nas,Ra(kim),Andre’ 3000, LL, Big Daddy Kane,Ice Cube etc. i mean the list is endless and the debate as to who is in the top tier could be debated until judgement day…..Now I’m an older head, so to me these new school cats have more to prove than the cats who’ve “put in their body of work” and made a solid contribution to the rap game….I will say this and I have closely listened to and dissected Marshall’s (lyrics, delivery,word play,metaphors) like a proffesor reading a students term paper. I say all of that to say this…..
if Rap had 12 apostles, I would have to put him at #9,#10, in terms of lyrical content and flow.maybe even higher (but not in the top 5..sorry Em)..in fact I would stand up to the “reverse” racial discrimanation that he faces just cause he’s a white boy….The guy has flow! and Im one of the most militant cats out here, but game recognize game! The guy has spitfire lyrics.
Yeah this is a pathetic analysis. Why would anyone give you a journalism position? Or any position?
Not to be a jerk, but since we’re talking about lyrics and writing, I have to mention how terribly this article is written. It’s like a 6th grader wrote it. Kind of makes it hard to take the writer’s opinion seriously
Click bait article if uve ever seen one.
Id even give you the benefit of the doubt but you gave no evidence, reasoning, or proof… not even lyrical examples.
Always hating on my Detroit brother. Nearly 20 years ago the Shady one made a splash. And still today I would take Eminem over any rapper. I would even say GOAT, yeah I said it!!!
You are clearly trying to stand out and get attention.
Wow unfortunately you have no clue. Del, gift of gab, all of souls of mischief, cage, run the jewels, guru, tribe, big l , showbiz, and a.g. and it’s. Smashed all the me mumble. Rap wack shit. No rapper is even in the same category. Nas and rakim yes. But all these rappers are rappers, not even close. Wack cats are killing the system. Bring hop hop back 1. Pop hop is wack. Hip hop is real. Das efx epmd. No one can touch .No Lamar . Fuck lil. Anybody. Except fame. Pete rock. Mf . Doom. Mad lib. Perceptionists, jeru, these pop. Cats ain’t got shit. Mimmmmmmble. Bummmble. Garbage. Heiro, tip said any cat can rymhe cat this hat. Real cats don’t cat about got car or chain… it’s about real lyrics, and pop so t.wack..killing my kids. Microphone microphone check one two what is this the 5 ft. Rapping with the ruffneck bizzness.
First of all Tupac is my favorite rapper of all time. And Andre 3000 is an absolute Beast. And as far as Lupe and Kendrick go they are great but Eminem Lyrically he has destroyed everyone who has come in front of him. Now not saying that he is the best but he is definitely ranked in the top 5.
To say Em