(ThyBlackMan.com) Ok I am just now coming up for air after the onslaught that was borne out of the aftermath of my article on Ron Paul being like a favorite uncle. ( Click here ) Well my email box has been blitzed and is still recuperating.
While the majority of the responses have been positive, theres some negativity to be addressed (this is a two-parter). But before i can even do that let me just give a quick thanks to Mr. Paul and his supporters who have been much more well behaved than their counterparts with other party affiliations.
I got quite a few emails and had several conversations where the topic centered around what the heck is a Libertarian, and so some digging and research was in order.
Heading over to the lp.org site ran into this taken from their preamble:
The world we seek to build is one where individuals seek to follow their own dreams in their own ways without interference from government or any authoritarian.
Power
Say What?
We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives and live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they don’t forcibly interfere with the rights of others.
Get Out – Really? No but wait it gets better,
Personal Responsibility
“Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves, and accept the consequences for the choices they make”
Hmm I’m gonna need for some of you Libertarians to chime in or speak up on this. Quite frankly, to be honest too much is at stake not to open a dialog to discuss the party’s platform and in particularly the GOP’s current Presidential candidate, Mr. Ron Paul.
Contrary to popular myth belief there are actually people of color who put a lot of thought and consideration into who they vote for and what party they support if any and why.
Blind allegiance is for the dumb and blind faith is for the religious. When contemplating how best to use your vote and make your voice heard choise wisely takes on a whole new meaning.
However for reasons I have yet to identify, there hasn’t been much discussion about the Libertarian party and its principles and i have yet to meet an actual black libertarian. Yes i know you are out there my email won’t stop going off right now because of some of you.
Reading through the party platform and information one can see why, for the most part they have been under the radar. Many of the policies espoused by the party fly completely in the face of the two major parties and the lobbyists, and corporations that feed them.
Individual freedoms and rights, reduced government interference and personal responsibility, why do these things sound so familiar?
Staff Writer; Alinda Pete
hmmm some people evidently don’t have erasers on their pencils.. Oh well it was nice while it lasted.
Please get your facts straight. Ron Paul is NOT the Libertarian Party’s current presidential candidate. The party has yet to endorse a candidate. Ron Paul was also not endorsed by the party when he ran in 2008.
I wonder if our framers, you know, the ones who trespassed & boarded someone else’ship in the Boston harbor and threw someone’s else’s property overboard, would have been libertarian. Some of the purists libertarians would have never made it as patriots.
Walter E. Williams Prominent African-American Libertarian, endorsed Ron Paul ’08.
Your last couple articles sound like what I went through when I first found Dr. Paul and libertarianism. It is quite a journey. Liberty isn’t always pretty. If the guy next door wants to shoot heroin or smoke crack all day, I don’t think he should be arrested…but it ain’t a pretty sight. Someone said it like this, “The freedom to swing my fist ends at your nose”. In other words, one should be free to do as he/she desires, only if there is no harm done to the person/property of another. This book on “consensual crimes” is a great start to defining liberty for yourself. Be forwarned, it may challenge your core beliefs!
http://www.buildfreedom.com/content/books/aint_nobodys/contents.html
I’d like to thank everyone for taking the time to read and comment. Am most appreciative that the dialogue did not descend into a name calling shout fest. There is some good information imparted here in the comments and i have shared this with my circle of collegues and friends because quite frankly many have no idea about the candidate himself or his idealogy. Aside from what main stream media feeds them. My point and hope in writing this piece was to get people thinking and looking beyond the newscasts to decide for themselves what and who they will support. And of course to learn….
I look forward to the day when all men read and see the truth in John Locke’s and Jean Russeau’s words. Herein will you find the inspiration of the founding fathers, and the true core of Libertarian thought. Barely even mentioned in most schools today, and when it is it happens in an English class instead of a History class. All political systems are BASED on philosophical thought. If you are going to believe in something you must be able to speak on WHY you believe it. This is the why.
One further clarification on Ron Paul’s Libertarian credentials. Although he has chosen to run as a Republican because of the unfair strangle hold that the two-party duopoly has on our electoral system, his libertarian credentials are equal to anyone I have met in my 40 years as an LP member. He is a Life Member of the LP and therefore eligible to be our Presidential nominee. Whether he would accept that nomination after the Rs reject him remains to be seen but for many of us a Ron Paul/Gary Johnson ticket would be a dream team.
As to what Ron Paul has done for blacks, he changed his position on the death penalty to opposition specifically because his research convinced him that it implemented in a racist fashion. A higher perenctage of blacks convicted of murder are sentenced to death than are whites.
As to how the disadvantaged would be helped in a libertarian society I recommend “Libertarianism: A Primer” by David Boaz of the Cato institute. Boaz clearly shows that community compassion is far better than government coercion at helping those who need assistance.
Ron Paul is my guy.
I hope everyone takes the time to look him up…
I would like to clarify that Ron Paul is not a Libertarian. He is a Republican with Libertarian leanings. More accurately, he is a Constitutionalist. Simply put, the difference is between limited government and individualism with the individual solely responsible for governing themselves. Ron Paul sees the need for government, but in a strictly limited form. Only responsible for those roles given it from the Constitution. Leaving the individual to govern themselves where the government does not have authority.
I do appreciate your interest in the subject and i hope that i could be of help to you or anybody else’s confusion on this matter.
Hey, check out Thomas Sowell, he’s similar to a libertarian in many, and he’s black. I see that he was mentioned above anyway. Sowell is an economist at Stanford’s Hoover Institution.
One thing for sure that Ron Paul would do for the black community is end the war on drugs which imprisons so many black youths for minor drug offenses. This would also have the effect of reducing drug and drug gang related crime. The war on drugs is just another example of prohibition which we all know was a dismal failure and created a violent criminal black market for trading alcohol. As a physician, Ron Paul believes in treating drugs as a health issue and not a criminal issue.
Thank you for another outstanding article.
Whether or not you, or any readers that visit your site, decide to vote for Ron Paul (my candidate of choice), your more than open-minded consideration is appreciated. If some of the mainstream media would just follow your lead…
There are a lot of good reasons to support Ron Paul. The past four years have proven him correct — on the housing bubble, on the economy, and on our national debt. But, my reason for choosing Dr. Paul is selfish. My son is in the military. I was physically ill when I saw video of the Navy SEAL’S parents being interviewed on the Today Show. We’ve been fighting wars in the middle east for almost 10 years. Bin Laden is gone. Enough is enough. I want our troops to come home. When I saw the moms and dads on the Today Show holding the photographs of their fallen children — all I could think was please, not me.
For those who are concerned by Ron Paul’s stance on Iran, today I read an opinion in the National Review by John Derbyshire worthy of consideration:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/274681/appalled-paul-john-derbyshire#
What has big government done for the black community? The race pimps are always out there rallying the black community to get more hand outs from government but only end up empowering and enriching themselves.
Look at the asian community. They don’t rely on big government. They are the prime example of “individual responsibility”. They work together and build their own communities and don’t spend any time worrying about whether “whitey is out to get them”.
It is important to understand that Ron Paul is not a member of the Libertarian Party. While you can find lots of good information at the Libertarian Party website, there are many many more (small “l”)libertarians than there are members of the Libertarian Party. In fact, many libertarians want nothing to do with party politics whatsoever. And there lies the attractiveness of the Ron Paul candidacy.
He is a Republican, but his Congressional track record shows that he is as immune to the pressure of party politics as anyone could ever be. I do not agree with Ron Paul on every issue (in fact, a couple of issues I am diametrically opposed to his viewpoint), but Ron Paul is a man who is principled. If I have the opportunity, I will cast a vote for him. At this point, I would rather have a man in the White House who really and truly believes what he says, than to have a president who talks a good talk of peace, freedom, and liberty, but walks the walk of a neoconservative warmonger.
The problem is, until the national media get the idea out of their heads that they have the right to determine whether or not Paul is electable, he has absolutely no chance. It is truly sad.
Q: If you are elected president in 2008, what positive and significant legacy, if any, will you leave for Black Americans?
A: I would like to believe that if we had a freer society, it would take care of Blacks and whites and everybody equally because we’re all individuals. To me, that is so important. But if we had equal justice under the law, I think it would be a big improvement. If we had probably a repeal of most of the federal laws on drugs and the unfairness on how Blacks are treated with these drugs laws, it would be a tremendous improvement. And also, I think that if you’re going to have prosperity, it serves everybody. And if this is done by emphasizing property rights and freedom of the individuals, making sure that the powerful special interests don’t control Washington, that the military industrial complex doesn’t suck away all the wealth of the country, and then we would have prosperity.
Source: 2007 GOP Presidential Forum at Morgan State University Sep 27, 2007
Frederick Douglass read:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Literature/Douglass/Autobiography/
NAACP Nelson Linder speaks on Ron Paul and racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGhv3paNz6U
Nail on the head, Ms. Pete. Nail on the head! I can understand why people would fear less government. I can understand why people fear losing social safety nets. I can understand why people are opposed to losing safety, security, and stability. I just can’t understand why people are so afraid of freedom when it’s something Americans have always fought for, even against each other Americans. The comments on this article are fantastic and it’s very encouraging to see these types of conversations rather than the normal name-calling and partisan arguments you see everywhere else. If there’s one thing I can say about Dr. Paul, it’s that he changes the dialogue.
Rather than being right or left, black or white, red or blue, North or South, or whatever end of the spectrum we can cling to, Dr. Paul asks us to question the very foundations of our beliefs. None of us will agree completely with him, but what other candidate has the public asking substantive questions about the way we’re governed, how our money is spent and created, the consequences of our foreign policy, etc.? In the end, Dr. Paul IS NOT the solution — we are. I think that’s what unites his supporters who come from so many different backgrounds (they’re not all young, white, angry college kids); he’s not our savior, we are. We can control whether we’re enemies with the rest of the world or not. We can defend ourselves.
We can maintain our societies, raise our children, learn . . . make a better world. I’m ranting so I’ll leave this alone. Thanks, once again, for an honest discussion of liberty.
Thank you so much for this write up. This is the revolution we’re talking about – put the truth out there so others may look and decide for themselves.
Revolution Calling – Ron Paul 2012 or Bust
The only way to protect the rights of all minorities is to protect the rights of the smallest minority…the individual.
You need to start looking around. There are plenty of black libertarians. Check out Walter Williams the professor at GeorgeTown .
I’ve enjoyed both of your recent articles Alinda, and I have 3 things I would like to add.
First, the idea of Liberty is such a basic component of being an American I don’t understand how everyone, whether they are Republican or Democrat, can’t identify with this idea to some degree.
Secondly, I am a Ron Paul supporter, because I feel that Dr Paul looks at every issue, law, budget, regulation, ect through the lense of Liberty to see if it is consistent with the Constitution, and our individual freedoms. Once you look at government through the lense of liberty, you realize that 1) this is the correct way to look at government, and 2) that Dr Paul is right on a great many things, if not almost everything.
The last thing that I want to say is that I don’t understand why your recent articles don’t make the main page of the website. I’ve noticed that they have a high number of comments and tweets as compared to some of the other stories, but there is no mention of them in the news category on the homepage.
Thank you for your continued writing on Ron Paul. I would suggest that you and all of your readers take a close look at Dr. Paul’s book “Revolution: A Manifesto”. I think you’ll find that many of you will really appreciate that work. That book spawned the Ron Paul Revolution that we are seeing today.
Dr. Paul’s views are consistently pro-individual and pro-life. In prior speeches, he has acknowledged the discrepancy in abortion rates between blacks and whites. To me, the significantly higher abortion rates among the African American community is a form of genocide, and I believe Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. suggested that at one point.
To be honest, Dr. Paul needs members of the African-American community to learn about his pro-liberty positions and to give him support. What is most exciting is that Dr. Paul has energized the youth of America, and so there may be an awakening soon. In the meantime, we all need to get past race and begin protecting each individual’s life, liberty, and property. Dr. Paul is the only candidate who has expressly done that over his career, and therefore is the only candidate we can rely on to protect us in the future.
Thanks for writing this article. I see this as an effort to open up more minds to Dr. Paul and the Libertarian philosophy of sound economics, peace, and personal responsibility as originally outlined by Thomas Jefferson and our founding fathers. There is a reason why America rose to the top – personal freedom and the motivation of free individuals, not massive governments that tax free markets to fund unending wars and failed programs. I appreciate your fair inquisitive tone and find it refreshing, as the mainstream media as an arm of the current government will not allow this. The establishment is genuinely scared of Ron Paul because he is the first to whole-heartedly stand up for American citizens in a long time.
The only time I listen to the Rush Limbaugh show is when Dr. Walter Williams is the guest host. Link to some of his columns follows:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams1.asp
You forgot Tuskeegee, US dept of Health.
Libertarians want to shrink the role of government in our lives.
Of course, the “progressives” always paint Ron Paul and other libertarians as people who want to ‘roll back the clock’ to the days of Bull Connor and Emmet Till.
Those “progressive” idiots can never seem to understand that it was the GOVERNMENT that aimed police dogs and firehoses at children.
It was the GOVERNMENT that mandated that Woolworth’s close their lunch counters to blacks in the South. [Woolworth’s lunch counters were integrated in the North…]
It was the GOVERNMENT that mobilized law enforcement and the Arkansas National Guard to prevent black kids from integrating a public high school.
It was the GOVERNMENT that deprived blacks of the right to vote, and arrested and beat people who attempted to register black voters.
It was the GOVERNMENT that taxed and registered slaves, and went looking for them when they were able to escape their owners.
It was the GOVERNMENT that arrested Southern blacks on trumped-up or petty offenses, then farmed them out as cheap convict-laborers to the politically influential.
It was the GOVERNMENT that told unfairly-convicted blacks that they had lost their rights to own a firearm, thereby depriving them of the means to defend their families from marauding klansmen or white citizens’ councils.
Government is the majority with a big stick.
It always amazes me that persecuted minorities are so ready to give the majority more power, by voting for “progressives” and their vision of a “Living Constitution” that bends to the will of the majority.
If we live in a racist society, why would you want the [racist] majority to have more power ?
If our society isn’t racist, why do you need the government to pass anti-discrimination laws, etc. [that obviously aren’t necessary in a non-racist society…] ?
Agree with the article except: “…blind faith is for the religious.”
True faith is not blind, true religion is not blind.
One minor correction: Ron Paul is philosophically a (l)ibertarian, and he ran as the Libertarian Party’s presidential candidate in 1988, but he is now a Republican. He is not the Libertarian Party’s candidate in 2012 (at least not yet 😉 ).
Walter Williams pioneered studies demonstrating the discriminatory effect of “progressive” minimum wage laws on black unemployment rates, especially among black youth. [Who once had HIGHER employment rates than white youths – until increased minimum wages were implemented]
A common observation among many libertarians is that well-intentioned “do-good” legislation usually has the exact OPPOSITE effect it is advertised to achieve. The poor and racial minorities are often harmed by Great Society – type programs. The real financial benefits of the “anti-poverty” programs typically flow to corporations, upper-middle-class whites, and the politically influential.
Williams’ work influenced the famous libertarian economist Milton Friedman to state that, since blacks were forced to send their kids to crummy public schools, where they acquired inferior skills to their white counterparts, the minimum wage law was “the most anti-negro law” [this was ~40 years ago…] on the books.
The higher national minimum wage was primarily pursued by highly-paid, northern, nearly-all-white, unions. One of the great fears of the northern, rust-belt unions has been that employers would send jobs to the South and Southwest [where there have been large percentages of blacks and latinos, respectively.] One effect of high national minimum wages has been to artificially retard economic growth in the South for decades.
Regarding entry-level jobs:
Why would an employer hire a poorly educated black youth, who has $6 / hr worth of skill, if the law requires him to pay all employees $8 / hr ? [answer: he won’t !]
Why wouldn’t he prefer to hire a white kid, who received a better-quality education, and who has $9 / hr worth of skill ? [answer: he will]
If black youth are frozen out of the entry-level job market, where will they ever gain the on-the-job training necessary to command better employment and higher wages ???
Given that the government forces many urban, black youths to attend lousy public schools – where they are subjected to low expectations – and where they are less likely to develop skills that are of interest to entry-level employers:
Wouldn’t it be better if employers were allowed to pay $4 or $5 / hr to low-skilled hires [of any race…] – rather than pricing those potential employees out of the job market ?
Two great libertarian websites/think tanks are http://www.reason.com and http://www.cato.org
I second what Eric said. Walter Williams is BRILLIANT and a perfect example if you are searching for a black libertarian. He is an economics professor and has decades of published material to read. You might also look into Thomas Sowell; he’s not a libertarian per se but he’s often libertarian-leaning.
Nice….nice to see an open mind.
One prominent black libertarian is Walter E. Williams. He’s worth a google search if you are not familiar with him