(ThyBlackMan.com) Years ago I told a great many people that Eddie Long was a homosexual pretender and pedophile who would end up with AIDS and he did. Now he is gone, New Birth’s insurance company paid out millions of dollars to 4 of the young men he sexually molested and a whole lot of people still attended New Birth and defended Long to the death. People wake up and stop being so gullible just because you like the man. If the message is poison your admiration, love and infatuation for the man is misguided. And that warm feeling you get when you hear him (or her) preach is not the anointing. It is the response of your soul and/or flesh to someone skillful in tapping into your emotions. Read Romans 16:17-18 as you find that Jakes divides you from the message of Christ and covertly regulates how you come to God.
Now we come to Bishop Thomas Dexter Fakes, I mean Jakes. No I actually mean both. And before you start with the BS about “touching not mine anointed” or whatever blind defenses you propose to use to stay in denial, know that I am extremely well versed in the scriptures and the use of them in context. So have any objections you like but be willing and able to support them with the Word of God in context and consistent with the nature and character of our Creator. The Bible says let God be true and every man a liar. Thus we all have opinions but God’s truth takes precedence over our opinions. And before you say “that’s your interpretation”, know that the Bible never tells us to interpret it – so I don’t. It tells us to study and to rightly divide the Word of God. That being said, let’s get to it.
THE BIBLE SAID BELIEVERS ARE TO BE IN THE WORLD BUT NOT OF IT! 1 John 2:15-17
I am about to prove to you according to scripture that T.D. Jakes is a FAKE and more like T.D. Snakes. Right now those of you who have been deceived by him are either getting upset or thinking I am lost. That is simply because you have heard his lies for so long and seen so many people swallow them that you find it next to impossible to believe he is a fake. But remember (1) the majority was never with Christ and (2) mostly everybody once thought the world was flat but all of that huge majority was wrong. So the concept of how many people follow Jakes is not a Biblical test of his authenticity.
THE BIBLE REQUIRES US TO RESTORE, CORRECT, REBUKE AND EVEN EXPOSE OTHERS! Yet many of you say these commands are us judging each other only because you don’t want to follow them.
Keep reading and for those of you who are saying “I am going to pray for this man because he is speaking against a great man of God”, use your time instead to verify and fact check or rather truth check what I am telling you instead. I dare you, yes I dare you. I know this article will be controversial but then search the scriptures, even if it is in an effort to prove me wrong. But watch what you discover.
In 1 John 4:1 the Bible tells us not to believe every spirit but rather to try (test) the spirits to see if they are of God. Many of you were never taught how to do that so you cannot spot a fake based on Biblical standards. Scripture also tells us you will “know a spirit by its fruit” but many of you confuse fruit with works and they are not the same thing.
An evil man can hold a conference or a camp meeting or give a hungry person a sandwich. Those are works – not fruit. When the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Truth) is present inside a true believer, HE bares certain fruits that can be identified and verified by scripture. Anyway, as instructed by 1 John 4:1, I am going to proceed through to show you how Jakes fails test after test of scripture. And don’t try the “you are judging” bull on me either because none of these are my personal judgments. They are the judgments of God via scripture which is fit for reproof, correction and instruction. They are also the methods of scripture to try a spirit.
Test #1 – Love not the world nor the things of the world (1 John 2:15). Believers are warned against the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life. Yet we see Jakes feeding the flesh with the riches he has and basking in the pride of life through self-promotion, his face on everything and his acceptance of almost worship-like adoration by millions of people, including those who have not accepted Christ.
The Bible tells us to lay up for ourselves treasures in HEAVEN, not on Earth. But T.D. Fakes does just the opposite. That is why Jakes net worth is estimated at over $18 million minimum – on Earth. Some even report his net worth is as high as $150 million. So much for rendering to Caesar what is Caesars. Maybe Jakes has changed it to render unto Jakes what is Caesar’s.
CONFORMING TO THE WORLD VIOLATES ROMANS 12:2
While some of that money came from books you THOUGHT that T.D. Fakes wrote, Jakes has used ghost writers to write the books for him. They stay in the shadows and he gets the popularity, the money and the acclaim. A little research on your part can verify this as well.
https://www.bankrate.com/lifestyle/celebrity-money/td-jakes-net-worth/
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/net-worth-richest-pastors-will-blow-your-mind.html/
Test #2 – A friend of the world is an enemy of God (James 4:4). T.D. Jakes seems to be a friend to the entire world – or rather as much of it as will have him. And if you listen closely, he tends to blend in well enough to where the world outside his conferences and meetings is not compelled to repent nor accept Christ. So for those of you ready to say “Jakes” is speaking to the world to share the Word with them, you need to listen and watch more closely what he is actually doing when he is with them – blending in and being loved and accepted. This being such a friend of the world makes T.D. Fakes an enemy of God.
Test #3 – Just as they hated Christ, so will they hate those who truly follow Him. Neither Christ (Yeshua) nor any of the Apostles were welcomed and adored by the world. But Bishop Jakes is loved, followed and adored by people like Oprah who, by her own words, has no sense of who the Savior is nor who God is either. T.D. Fakes has been welcomed and admired by the world in the following magazines of the world: Time, Jet, Success and Ebony, to name a few. Then he is warmly welcomed by the world on Good Morning America and Dr. Phil, to name a few. The Bible teaches that the world loves its own. Jakes proves that and a man quoting the Word of God in the mode of a religious motivational superstar does not mean he is of God.
Test #4 – All of the riches of T.D. Fakes and the example they set. The Bible states it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God. Is anybody asking how many people Jakes, not his church, is helping financially since so many are contributing to him? What kind of example of all things in moderation does he set?
HEBREWS 13:5 tells us not to get caught up in the love of money and learn to be content with what you have. The Bible does not teach you to take and use the power of God to gain personal riches and serve your personal agendas. But this is not what Bishop Snakes teaches.
Can those who follow him also ride in limousines and live in mansions? Should that be a goal in light of Hebrews 13:5? And while the streets of Heaven are paved with gold, notice gold is so minimal in value in Heaven in comparison to more important things that gold is on the ground to be walked on.
People like T.D. Fakes who fail to understand this seek riches and material things, thinking that it is of God to place their treasures on Earth, contrary to scripture. Be poor? Not necessarily. Be rich? Not as an objective by fleecing the flock, repackaging and charging for what you do not own. Christ did not do this and this is not the way of the body of Christ.
Matthew 6:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Test #5 – Who is getting the glory? God says He shares his glory with nobody. But look closely at whose face is on the books, the billboards, the magazine covers and the conference promotions. That is who is being promoted, not Christ and not the Gospel. How often do these marketing tools say anything about Christ anywhere on the same level that they promote T.D. Fakes? This steals the glory from God and even though Jakes talks about God in his meetings, think about who everybody came to see. They came to a Jakes conference to see Jakes because they seek and follow a man. Isaiah 42:8.
Test #6 – There is only 1 Mediator between God and man – Christ himself. But Jakes has interjected himself between many of you and God. Jakes/Fakes has inserted himself into the role of an Old Covenant High Priest but the Bible says Christ is the Eternal High Priest. T.D. Fakes has become your substitute door when Christ is the real door.
T.D. JAKES GOES OFF SCRIPT? ARE YOU KIDDING? Look at the world’s Jet Magazine Cover. The Bible tells us those whomever add to God’s Word or takes away from it will be cursed. So who authorized Jakes to go off script? And once a minister goes “off script”, anything goes. God would not do that because by His own, it would mean that He would have to curse you. Proverbs 30:6, Rev 22:18-19
And how can a man who claims to follow the Bible, be of God, hearing from God and speaking from God then “go off script” when the only script for a man of God is the Word of God? Go online and listen to Jakes as he teaches Oprah’s Life Classes. Any Bible? Any Gospel? Any call to repentance? Any call to come to Christ? T.D. Snakes is a box of new age and new thought metaphysics carefully dipped in the Word of God for flavoring and reception when convenient. The proof is present if you listen closely.
T.D FAKES ACCEPT AND CONDONES THE SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY
“During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist.
“Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”
“LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined.”
Bishop T.D. Snakes needs to know and should know that a homosexual lifestyle and LGBTQ are not of God (Lev 18:22, Heb. 13:4, Romans 1:24-28, Jude 1:7, 1 Timothy 1:8-10, Mark 10:6-9, I Cor. 6:9, I Cor. 7:2, Leviticus 20:13) and there can be no compromise on willful and deliberate sin. Why should there be diversity from church to church if they follow the Bible on this topic? A congregation that affirms the homosexual lifestyle is a congregation that fails to follow Christ and instead compromises the Word of God by conforming instead of transforming.
Anybody with a Bible and a concordance can easily know that homosexuality and the LGBTQ community are both an abomination and a perversion to God. And anyone who makes excuses for or promotes acceptance of such perversion is part of the problem. Christ spoke boldly against deliberate sin.
HAVE YOUR “ITCHING EARS” CAUSED YOU TO BE DECEIVED BY JAKES?
2 Timothy 4:2-4 King James Version (KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
WHERE DOES IT SAY TO GO OFF SCRIPT?
Bishop Fakes tells many of you just what you want to hear. That is why you get offended when the truth challenges his lies and your agenda. That is also why your spirit seems to agree with him, because your spirit needs to reject your flesh and the way of the world. Because many of you are in the flesh only pretending to be in the Spirit. Even now many of you know what I am saying is correct but you would rather keep following a Jakes version of Rudolph because he leads you to a Santa Claus version of God.
T.D. Fakes has inserted himself between you and Christ every single time you go to Jakes as the way to the Savior and most of you don’t even see that. You run to Jakes meetings to experience something that you don’t realize you can have with God through Christ without Jakes. And the same people year after year keep buying the repackaged and twisted Word of God as the Gospel is merchandized with T.D. Jakes’ face on the cover or on the CD at whatever price Jakes required of you to pay. You save money and take time off from work to travel out of state to see Jakes. All the while he sells what he does not own and Bishop Fakes gets rich while you get suckered. You are following a man – not God.
Test #7 – Merchandising the Gospel is not of God. Christ turned over the tables of the moneychangers. Why would you think it is acceptable for T.D. Fakes to sell and profit from the Word of God that he does not even own? When did Christ do this? He didn’t. It is not the way of the Kingdom, it is the way of the world that loves mammon and the fake church that has its own agenda. Yet because so many “church leaders” sell what belongs to God with their face on it, you have come to accept this ungodly practice as normal. So again I ask when did Christ or any of the Apostles and Prophets (the foundation of the Church) do any of that?
Test #8 – Denial of the Trinity. Did you know that Jakes/Fakes was ordained in and by the Oneness Pentecostal church? A church organization which denies the Trinity. And Jakes himself has been known not to agree with the eternal existence of all three Persons of the Trinity. I suggest you research the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostal church.
LOOK AT THE BELIEFS OF JAKES’ POTTER’S HOUSE https://carm.org/td-jakes
Test #9 – You know a spirit by its fruit. The Bible defines fruits and works differently. Jakes who is supposed to be the super mega Bishop must be examined in light of the Biblical guidelines of a Bishop (1 Tim 3:1-3). But he also must be evaluated by the fruit he bares. Looking at the fruit of the womb or rather the fruit of his loins, let’s see what we see. Jakes and his wife had 5 children – 3 boys and two girls. His oldest son (Jermaine) was a caught up in a sex sting operation.
GOOD WORKS IS NOT A BIBLICAL TEST OF WHO IS OF GOD AND WHO IS NOT! FRUITS ARE!
Reportedly Jakes’ daughter Sarah got pregnant at age 15 and is divorced. His son Jamar reportedly has been arrested and uses or used marijuana. No, not the fruit of the great Bishop T.D. Jakes? And though adults are responsible for our own actions, parents are responsible for what they produce as well. Train up a child in the way he should go, remember? Why didn’t the great anointing Jakes seems to have (according to his followers) cover his family? Or did the Bishop fail in his own household while trying to tell millions of people what to do in theirs? Did he raise up his children in the way they should go?
No parent is perfect BUT what about the Bible verse that says get the mote out of your own eye first? If three out of 5 of your children (that we know of) are acting like the world and being snared like rabbits, where is your influence when you are supposed to be a super minister? Hold ministers accountable.
Test #10 – The Accuracy of Doctrine In Light of Scripture is a major test. Is the doctrine taught by Jakes accurate and contextual or simply manipulated, twisted and sounding good? So many people believe in Jakes that they fail to closely test, evaluate and scrutinize what he is saying. They think they are following the Word of God but they are actually following the version given by Jakes, not the Word itself. Most don’t know the difference. And we are commanded to reject any doctrine contrary to scripture and the teachings of Christ. Sadly most simply ignore this and drink the Jakes laced Kool-Aid.
The doctrine of Jakes is largely that he is conduit, catalyst or mediator for man power or women being loosed. He is the ideal answer man for people who will not seek the same answers from the Holy Spirit and their Bibles that they could study without a T.D. Snakes. Yet every year millions flock to their TVs, CDs, books and meetings to hear the book of Jakes. Then they come back year after year. WAKE UP! Many of you just want someone else to do the studying for you then tell you how to pass the test by giving you the answers. Grow up people, study and open your eyes.
Christ has set you free without Jakes help as a mediator (John 8:36, 1 Timothy 2:5).
T.D. Fakes came from the Oneness Pentecostal church which believes that God is limited and unable to express Himself in more than one way at a time. This doctrine falsely teaches that God changes Himself into Christ, then into the Holy Spirit then into the Father as needed. This is not the truth of the trinity and such false doctrine essentially denies that there are three distinct persons in the godhead.
PEOPLE LONG FOR THE REAL TRUTH AND IT DOES EMPOWER, BUT THE RIGHT WAY AND THROUGH THE RIGHT CHANNELS WITHOUT DEPENDENCY ON MAN AS IF HE IS GOD’S MEDIATOR
1 John 2:27 King James Version (KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Bishop Snakes preaches “another Gospel”, a doctrine comfortable and non-threatening to the world which allows them to stay as they are (like lost Oprah and emasculated Tyler Perry). A motivational speaker doctrine that empowers those calling themselves believers and makes them feel good with the power at their fingertips. A doctrine that leaves him rich and you hopeful but deceived. A doctrine where T.D. Snakes calls upon you to make him richer to get your needs met. A doctrine where he regulates women being loosed and men being empowered as you come to God through him. A doctrine where your itching ears, blind trust, personal adoration and failure to study make way for deception.
A SOBER BELIEVER MUST LEARN TO DISTINGUISH A POWERFUL MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER WHO USES THE WORD OF GOD FROM A MAN OF GOD LETTING THE WORD OF GOD USE HIM
Creflo Dollar went to jail for abusing his daughter, remember? Kenneth Copeland stated he and his wife were so powerful in God that they could not be touched by disease then Gloria Copeland got cancer. Paula White and Benny Hinn ended up sleeping together – adultery and fornication. Eddie Long molested boy after boy after and died, though the church insurance company paid out millions to the young men who are now largely homosexual.
False prophetess Juanita Bynum abused Bishop Weeks physically, verbally and emotionally then ended up fighting with him in a parking deck (I know an eye witness), only to lose because satan tricked them both. She ended up beaten up and Weeks ended up disgraced. Ironically Juanita Bynum, who was once in a mental facility, on drugs and lesbian as she preached to women at Jakes meetings, is still a mess in disguise while Weeks has remarried and moved on. Both got violent, both shamed their offices and both “super ministers” were laughed at by satan. Stop making excuses for these people who say they are so anointed and so covered.
COMING TO SEE THE MAN, HIS CHURCH – ALL ABOUT HIM, NOT CHRIST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9UOnHAKg3M
Now I could keep going but by now either you have gotten the point or you just don’t want to get it. Some would say one or maybe even two of the tests I reference about Jakes could simply be his human errors because none of us are perfect. It’s not that simple. The bar is set higher by God for those who teach the sheep. And you and I know that when a man fails all or even most of these tests, regardless of how many people love and follow him, that man is a fake. Again those who say they are to teach the flock are and must be held to a higher standard. While God has set those higher standards, He has also established tests to identify those who meet or fail them. Wake up people and stop being so gullible.
Romans 16:17-18 King James Version (KJV) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Thomas Dexter Jakes is a combination of a Trojan horse and a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Look closely and without a bias in his favor and you will see the truth because it is not hidden very well if you know the scriptures and where to look. Jakes is not bringing the world to Christ, he is bringing acceptance of the world’s behavior into the “church”. Jakes is allowing people to remain who they are and not feel compelled to reject the world run by satan. That is why he waters down his message when the world promotes and interviews him and that is why they feel comfortable accepting him.
Neither Christ nor the Apostles did such a thing. Nor did they conform to the world by compromising the message. They were hated by the world for Christ’s name sake but Jakes is loved (Matthew 10:16-22). The world loves and recognizes its own, no matter what form of camouflage these wolves wear.
Mathew 10:22 states: And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
John 15:18-19 King James Version (KJV) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
T.D. Fakes is very subtle and covert, skillful enough to use feigned words to deceive many and make them feel good while he does it. And whether he is being used by satan or by the world or just doing this on his own, T.D. Fakes is actively participating in the treachery. He is indirectly promoting the idea that believers and unbelievers are not all that different in thoughts and behaviors – and that is simply not true. Jakes is accepted by the religious and Christian audiences as a spiritual authority yet also widely praised, adored and at the same time accepted by the world ruled by satan (II Cor. 4:4). This would not likely exist with a man of God. That did not exist with Christ and the Apostles.
2 Peter 2:1-3 King James Version (KJV) But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. Through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
If you are sitting there and defending Jakes after all this proof, you are just like those who perished because they refused to see Jim Jones or Marshall Applewhite or David Koresh. Wake up! Christ confronted false teachers and exposed them. Why are you afraid to? Following 1 John 4:1 is not judging.
The problem today which allows fakes, moneychangers and con men to grab the sheep by the mind is complex and involves (1) too many calling themselves Christians or believers do not know how to spot a fake, largely because they won’t study, (2)others do not know that we are commanded to spot and expose fakes so they have been quieted down by people telling them to “stop judging” or not to “touch God’s anointed”,(3) others are simply blindly following the man they like, (4) others don’t see it as that serious or realize it is that diabolical and simply label false doctrine as error and finally (5) others are hearing what they want to hear, willing to pay for it and feel empowered by lies that serve their own agendas.
But now it’s time to WAKE UP PEOPLE! So you thought you knew God’s voice but somebody has bewitched you and they used your adoration for a man as well as your lack of diligence in study to trap you. wake up!
Staff Writer; Trevo Craw
Ah ok will like buttholes We all have opinions. So let me give my circulation of opinion. I believe there is a Higher Power- God, Allah, Whatever name u call on in joy or agony! Religion is a man made Concept that does nothing but Divide, Destroy, Man’s deceiving nature created this book with THE END on it like a story! Translation lost over time. Lots of misdeeds born of the good book because of MANKIND! I ask you “ What did Mankind do before Religions”
Did we kill each other, Did love each other.
I can’t wait until God comes and exposes Mankind’s complete failures.
Ok ,I guess I have several questions, so when did GOD stop sending messages through his prophets,why did he stop having them write? Why does it say satan was cast out of heaven and put into the Earth to have domain and rule over it ? 3rd Did god just stop communicating with us , I find that one really hard to believe , I was not raised in no way a religious household, as a matter fact I lived in Las Vegas my whole life, never was able to get an education due to my mother’s abuse so I decided to teach myself I believe it was 3rd or 4th grade when was when she pretty much kept me in the dark on so many things, anyway I believe that when I started Beseeching God with a heartfelt truth is when I was receiving my answers ,really not knowing so much I needed to know truth , I would have what I personally believed where, what I called ” Coming of the lord” So my journey began To this day I have many many many questions as I am sure we all do ,so I was gifted a book written by a man Named Neal Donald Walsh Conversation with God but I still have questions and I want to know That book HAPPENED TO ME AMAZING EXPERIENCE I HAD WITH GOD WHAT A SMACK IN THE FACE GODSMACK SORTA SPEAK So why would GOD STOP COMMUNICATING WITH US 2000 YEARS AGO HMMMMMM???
Dillon says:
March 30, 2020 at 8:41 am
I have literal proof that this man is a mystic and worships the Egyptian gods. I’m serious. I keep all I know from this imposter but have never revealed publicly what I have on him. Someone please reach out to me in regard to this post. Maybe you have the following necessary to truly reveal who he is. And it will beyond shock you.
I would like to learn more
What proof do you have that TD Jakes worships the Egyptian Gods? I would like you to say. If it is what I think you are saying you can say something and only those of us who were initiated would even know what you mean.
Dear Writer
Hi I am trying to learn about Christianity but it confuses me I have been to many churches that preach things that make no sense or they preach that this and that is a sin and yet I have witnessed very bad things done and they keep it hidden. I am afraid to even be a member of any churh. Could you please explain this verse to me.
I saw it in your post here:
In 1 John 4:1 the Bible tells us not to believe every spirit but rather to try (test) the spirits to see if they are of God. Many of you were never taught how to do that so you cannot spot a fake based on Biblical standards. Scripture also tells us you will “know a spirit by its fruit” but many of you confuse fruit with works and they are not the same thing.
Thank You
Matthew 7:5
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.”
Thank you for sharing this because it really blessed me. I have a question: how can you know and discern between a familiar spirit and some who is anointed by the holy spirit?
Trevor, I thank God for giving you the courage to stand in and on his word. There will always be the blind leading the blind. When people start to read the written word and understand it is God alone through his Holy Spirit that has the true interpetation of his word, scales will fall from their eyes and hearts of stone will become by the power of God hearts of flesh, hearts that will turn to God and stop accepting what is popular and just because it is given by those who are popular in the world by worldly standards
Until Miss Winfrey and others who believe all roads lead to God pass on I pray God will put someone in their path who can speak truth to them and they have ears to hear. Mrs Winfrey has wealth, fortune, fame and a man to love, but at what cost to her soul? She did not join herself to Mr Jakes by happenstance it is all in the plan of God and written in her and his life stories. Mr. Jakes like all those before him, with him and after him will have to give an account.
Thank you for your articulations.
Well constructed with solid reference to scripture to support your narrative to which I agree in part, as I’m currently ‘testing’ this for myself.
My only gripe is that this article reads like an angry rant with the name calling and abbreviated cuss words… Seems like you have almost have a hatred for BTDJ? Or lacking in one of the fruits of the spirit…
I don’t wanna judge, but this is just some my noticings.
May God be glorified.
hi,
i found your blog as I was looking up info on td jakes. I am a Christian and when I see some of these people on religous broadcasting networks I actually become so angry in my being.
I get such a bad feeling when I see some such as Kenneth copeland that I think he looks demonic and I cannot bear to look at him. Many others such as Larry hutch and really so many others. I do not consider myself to be a wonderful Christian but I know God has been with me from birth and I am sure it is the HOLY SPIRIT giving me discernment that is almost instant when I see these people.
I believe this could be the great deception talked about in Revelation that states that the very elect could be deceived!
Many people want to hear only good things, these sermons are like giving pablum to babies…I just want to tell you that everything you wrote resonated within me as I knew it to be true. When I have heard td jakes show on TV…he is using catchy phrases and then repeats them over and over and that seems to be the sum of his sermon.He then yells things out, an organ plays to prompt the audience to shout their agreement with him . There is nothing solid to teach you about your relationship with Christ.
I am glad to hear others as I have been told I should not be critisizing these ministries / but I cannot stop the revulsion that I feel when I see them and have to turn it off immediately !
I hope that God who understands all will lead these followers who may be searching for God and instead finding charlatans…that He know their hearts and will lead them to better ground.
I have bookmarked this blog and hope to read more.
thank you
I’d like to say. Just leave Bishop Jake alone and focus on yourselves rather than pointing the finger at a successful person that nine of ya will ever be. Bishop Jake’s is successful and I have reason to believe he is not fake or anything you are accusing him to be!
Whats to say that this page is a fake?
I have met Bishop Jake’s and he until you meet him in person you can’t judge only God can.
Jakes is all about the money. And has so many brain washed weak minded people. Many followers of his. Yes I said his not gods. Are so broke that they live check to check. And still give fakes a big chunk of there pay check. He can even know how bad you are doing financially. And he will still take your money. It’s all about the money. Also you have to pay a monthly fee to be a member of his church. Up front to attend. And it’s very costly. Jakes is a scam. With a good tinge. Funny how many of you defend him. Really shows your not saved or understand gods word. Keep feeding the fake and let them be rich while you remain poor. The. Ask him for help. And see what you get.
Funny how many people defended a fake. Reminds me of Jim and Tammy fe baker before they went to prison for doing what James does. But one day he will be judged.
Wake up people. False prophets will take you to hell with them.
Go ahead defend him. Maybe in hell with him you’ll be able to defend him to. Not
I have literal proof that this man is a mystic and worships the Egyptian gods. I’m serious. I keep all I know from this imposter but have never revealed publicly what I have on him. Someone please reach out to me in regard to this post. Maybe you have the following necessary to truly reveal who he is. And it will beyond shock you.
Hey I agree totally that Jake’s is fake but I don’t even care about that, its the idiot that said it’s not like he is claiming to be God ,that has got my goat! Figuratively speaking I mean, lol sorry lol bad humor, but the fact is it doesn’t matter who anyone is or claims to be the only thing that should matter is how many souls are being lost on account of his well worded babble, instead of the fact that if it isn’t in the bible then you shouldn’t be entertaining any notion when it regards your faith and salvation, that it only takes one fool on a mission too lead a whole generation of fools to hell, and if it’s not of the bible then it’s not of God, but at least he ain’t claiming to be god right? Anyone else ever hear the phrase follies of a fool? Just saying! God bless you all!
Hello Mr. Trevo Craw,
I ran across this article today and wanted to let you know that I agree with you and that you are ON POINT! Only the Holy Spirit could have revealed this truth to you regarding TD Jakes.
About 10 years ago, I was gonna take a trip to the Potters House for the first time for my birthday.
On the morning I was scheduled to leave, I was lead to go to the Potters House website to read their belief statement at which it was revealed to me that he (TD Jakes) didn’t believe in the Triune God.
I was then lead to do further research about his beliefs and discovered he has a Oneness Pentecostal background which clearly denies Jesus Christ.
Before the revealation of all of this I questioned his teaching because I noticed he hardly ever has a Bible in his hands nor does he reference Scripture while he’s preaching or teaching which means HE is merely speaking and motivating from his own intellect.
To Lashawn Panthers,
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Take your medication and go take a nap.
When you wake up there will be juice and cookies outside of your padded room.
You really should be a comedian.
From the Author
To Lashawn Panthers:
First of all your comments are so foolish that I hesitate to respond. Second they can be easily disproven. You say the black man is God but we are brown, not black. Do you mean to say a god does not know his colors? Next you say the black man is God but you are a woman so that would exclude you. Thus what are you talking about?
Next you need to read more carefully and address the subject matter at hand instead of trying to hijack the article with ludicrous comments you have NO proof for.
As for your reasoning that our accomplishments make us god, then i guess that would mean Nikola Tesla is god too. How many gods are you saying there are? If we all are gods, why do we die? Where is your proof that we made ourselves? What traits of gods do we have other than the bogus BS you site about accomplishments?
Clearly you are proving that you lack divine knowledge and divine evidence. Thus at the very least, all “black” people are not gods – or you are definitely not one.
So gods allow the rape and murder of their ancestors? So gods go into slavery? So gods need doctors and lawyers and grocery stores and pay bills? Do you know how foolish you sound? you have disproved your own point with your own arguments.
The Black Man is God! LOOK AT US, AND OUR HISTORICAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Enough with this “Spook-ism”
“Hearing God speak to you on a mountain”
“Hearing God convincing a group of people to write a New Testament book”
It is allegory it isn’t real!
Not now and NOT IN HISTORY would somebody “hearing God be tolerated”.
It was “tolerated” and authenticated due to the rape of our ancestors.
I don’t care what “cooning” the Ethiopians did to the Roman Empire/Egypt in recycling their traditional beliefs into a system “appearing” to be like Christianity.
More and more people like me are keeping their conservative, family-oriented beliefs, but are seeing that belief in god is the most blasphemous thing of all.
Wow you go Author. You are so right. I was a part of the Jakes fakes for over 4 years and I saw poor people throwing money out to him only to get a prayer, a motivational speech disguised as the Gospel then go home broke. It was weeks before the Jakes Fake wore off and even then people did not realize that he was a con man.
Keep speaking the truth because those who want to hear the truth can hear you. The others don’t want God, they want Santa Claus disguised as God and Jakes wearing a red nose.
TO THE READERS.
I find it sad that some of you would rather attack the messenger than look at the evidence of scripture in light of exposing fake Jakes, false doctrines, false teachers, false prophets and damnable heresies.
The Bible is fit for reproof and correction and instruction. Yet instead of applying the scriptures I listed in context to Jakes, you would rather ignore all of that and offer ignorant, immature insults. That only proves how deceived you are and emphasizes my point.
You don’t seem to refute any of the scriptures because you won’t even address them. You make accusations but you fail to realize that Christ, the Apostles and the Prophets did not just pray for people.
The Messiah, the Apostles and the Prophets corrected people, they rebuked false teachers and exposed false teachings. The Bible tells us how to spot the fakes and what to do about them – not just pray for them. But many of you want to call this “judging”. OK it is, but it God who has judged them and the false doctrines they bring. As His children we have the responsibility to follow the examples set by the Messiah, the Apostles and the Prophets. Not to be gullible, stupid, cowardice and in denial.
To Cecil From The Author,
We are to share the Word in season and out of season. We are to mark those which cause division among us contrary to the Word and avoid them. We are to do what 1 John 4:1 says in trying the spirits. Peter did just that before he walked across the water. John the Baptist exposed those who were not of God. Christ did the same by confronting the Pharisees. Thomas did the same by trying the spirit before he accepted that it was the risen Messiah.
We have more than just one responsibility. All of this is straight scripture. but many have been shut down from voicing legitimate concerns because the church shames them or said they were judging. Others, not wanting to be ostracized, kept quiet.
But Christ, the Apostles and the Prophets did not keep quiet. They spoke out against false doctrine, false teachers, damnable heresies and false prophets. Then they told us how to spot the fakes and how to speak up using the Word as evidence.
I do not abdicate that responsibility, even though many who call themselves Christians are willing to do so. Go back and look at what I have said throughout scripture. Christ is not just the Lamb, He is also the Lion. It is not of God to simply take the soft road and that is NOT what the Messiah did nor the Apostles nor the Prophets. Doing so allows fakes like T.D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, Paula White, Creflo Dollar, Jesse Duplantis, Fred Price, Kenneth Copeland etc to get away with spiritual murder.
To Eli Coffee From The Author,
First we are brown, not black. Look at your skin.
Second the “black” man is not God. If the “black” man was, he could save himself, heal himself, overcome racism and would have destroyed slavery. That is nonsense based on distorted facts related to Enki and Enlil you fail to overstand. And I do not plan to sit here and explain it to you because it goes deeper than you know. Where is your proof that the “black” man is God? None.
The rest of your comments seem to be predicated on false premises and illusion as well so I have no need to respond to them. We neither have omnipotence, omniscience nor omnipresence. Somebody deceived you.
To Vernon,
You are more lost than skeptical. Your first big mistake is failing to try the evidence on its own. Instead you try to look at the messenger when you should be looking at the content of the scriptures used in context vs T.D. Jakes who is a fake according to biblical definition.
Furthermore, I suggest you read Matthew 10:34 and Luke 12:51 where Christ Himself says He came to divide those who are of God from those who are not. Maybe you should have a problem with Him since you don’t seem to understand division. A BELIEVER’S FIRST ALLEGIANCE IS TO GOD AND HIS WORD, NOT TO COLOR! No color gets you into Heaven because no color can pay the debt that the Messiah paid. So as for division based on Truth, I suggest you study your Bible more.
You call yourself a Christian but fail to understand the division required by Christ to separate the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats, the righteous from the unrighteous. People like you are so easily duped and you comments prove this to be true. You really need to study.
You have not refuted one thing mentioned in the article. All you have done is prove your ignorance. The division is not by color, it is by truth vs lie, good vs evil, honesty vs deception. You are just a lost noise maker who cannot see that so you hide behind immature insults that fail to address thee issue.
I am ever “skeptical” of people who promote schisms in the black community.
I’m a seventh day adventist and I get hounded by you “Holier Than Thou, Bible Thumpers”, Jehovah Witnesses, Hebrew Isrealites and Reformed Baptists.
This is why we are losing as Christians….pulpit idiots like yourself seeking to bash another member of the faith.
STOP PITTING EVERYBODY AGAINST EACH OTHER.
Its not like the man (T.D Jakes) is declaring he is god or jesus or even a healer.
Frauds like you always trying to start somthing..
Where is your church? Where is your practice/study?
#FuckingDustyNegro
Religion (proven here so eloquently) just divides black people and does just as much harm as good.
In the African American Community I’ve seen personally from an individual level all the way to the macro-family/relationship one.
I know successful Christians
I know successful Muslims
I know successful Buddhists
I know successful Atheists/Secularists
I also know unsuccessful versions of each.
“The Black Man” is God…Humanity itself can be God to my friends.
Stupid always reveals itself and at the end is always tribal. Like this “debate” on who is the “better” Christian based off some bible verses taken a “certain” way.
This is actually amusing if it wasn’t so preposterously pathetic.
The Intra-Christian rivalry itself in general is so huge you could drive entire freight-trains through it.
P.S Very ironic a “hater” writer is responded by “hater” arguments.
Good Day Mr Trevo
I hear what you are saying, but like a father/a teacher with great knowledge, should it not be your duty to discuss matters like these in your house etc…? Remember you are trying to point out all wrongs forgting that debating over the word, makes you no better. God hates quarreling. This is causing great confusion to the gentiles who is not / have not yet invite Christ Jesus in their lives. I respect that you are pointing out, but be observent not to chase the lost souls away. “WE ARE CREATED TO SERVE THE CREATOR”.
I agree with the writer.
Alot of the people who won’t see the truth are biased in favor of T.D. Jakes instead of being biased in favor of the Word of God.
People like the Anir lady or the Salad guy are just making noise and trying to attack the guy bringing the truth. Go try that with the Bible and you will fail people. Many indoctrinated people who support Jakes do not have a solid foundational of Biblical study. That in part is why they cannot see the forest for the trees.
The writer is 110% accurate.
I am a pastor and I have a Doctorate in Theology.
Ms Anir
The author is spot on so try reading the evidence instead of attacking the writer. You say he is attacking Jakes but then you go and attack the writer. Hypocrite
To Mrs Anir,
First of all, if you understood your Bible, you would know it proves Jakes is a fake. But you lack understanding.
Second of all, trying to blame the messenger does not take away from the truth of scripture and the proven facts about Jakes.
Third of all, your bias is not based on the Bible either.
Fourth of all, I say what scripture says so if it is an attack, it is because God attacks the fakes. Christ confronted them. So did the Apostles and Prophets. I wonder what you would have told them? To stop?
Fifth of all, you need to study the Bible on correction and rebuke, not just lovey dovey approaches.
Sixth of all, correction, even rebuke, is done in love. Which is not the same thing as being done lovingly. You don’t seem to discern the differences and that both approaches are of God. Go study rebuke and the examples set by Christ – the Lion, not just the Lamb.
You do not understand the duality of Christ and the corrective righteousness of God. I suggest you read 1 john 4:1 and then look up the examples of how the Apostles and Christ Himself rebuked and corrected others, not always lovingly.
Finally you keep saying I am interpreting. But I am quoting scripture directly and in context. You just don’t like it. I do NOT interpret. i follow 1 John 4:1 and the other verses about exposing fakes, frauds and false ministers. Why don’t you?
You cannot ignore the scriptures I quoted in the article and they are in context. But you never address them. You would rather try to attack me. The scriptures are clear and the comparison is clear. Jakes is a fake. You are just too brainwashed or do not lack the Biblical knowledge to see that.
Where is any evidence you supply to refute any proof in the article?
The fact that the author comes back full of pride and attacking “fellow” brothers and sisters in Christ for not agreeing with his interpretation and opinions is all we need to know that he himself is lacking in the Department of the Fruits of the Spirit. He does not speak for a place of love, but of self righteousness. I don’t much further needs to be said in the case of this individual using the Word to justify a personal vendetta against a man whom most agree could use some improvement in the leadership department.
To Hezakiah Again,
You call the verses vague because you lack understanding.
Yet you offer nothing to refute anything I have said.
And every single test of scripture is used in correct context.
Thousands of people have read this article and you are clearly one of the most clueless that I have encountered.
YOU TRULY LACK UNDERSTANDING
To Hezakiah,
1. The Word exposes fakes, not me.
2. It is clear from all the tests that Jakes fails, he is clearly a fake.
3. You need to follow the responsibility we are given in 1 John 4:1
4. What you call an attack is called something else by the Bible. And Christ, the Apostle and the Prophets all exposed and confronted fakes.
You can’t understand the scripture so you insult the messenger.
Yet you say nothing to refute any proof I have provided.
Your small immature insults are just noise.
And now who is attacking when you call me names and judge my salvation?
You are the worse kind of hypocrite, an ignorant one in denial who will not look at the facts and evidence of scripture.
Grow up. Who have you informed with research and proof of anything?
Wow Sir…just wow…you attack another fellow brother in Christ over some vague interpretations of the bible. Then you debate both Christians and entertain our enemies (Islamism, Atheism, whatever-ism)
You’re a CLOWN and probably some Ignorant Hotep Fool.
Dividing Christians?
Maybe you burn in Hell Traitor!
To Mrs Anir, Henry, Eddie etc From The Author,
Why make immature insults based on inaccuracy? You throw rocks then hide your hands. You criticize this article yet say nothing when I respond. Nor do you successfully refute anything I have said. You make noise then disappear.
I deal in facts and let the chips fall where they may.
To Henry From The Author,
By now you should know I never ever run from an honest and respectful discussion. Email your phone number to brainstormonline@yahoo.com and I will call you and discuss every single point. I am much more aware than you assume that I am but it is inappropriate for you to try and hijack the narrative of my article.
To Henry From The Author,
First you assume I do not know who the Messiah really is. You are incorrect in making such an assumption and apparently you did not read my article closely. i follow Yeshua (or as some say, Yahoshua).
Second, stop trying to hijack my article with your speeches that do not address the issue. Go write your own. This is unfair to the readers as you spread your agenda, not the facts.
Third there is a Savior and it is not you so I don’t need you to save me because you can’t.
Fourth, I overstand geneology very well.
Fifth, you are confusing readers by going off topic. Who taught you how to teach. You should have written a separate article. No wise teacher bombards people with an off topic subject because it is both dishonorable and confusing in this case.
I could go point by point with you but to what end? You are not hearing and you make assumptions about me without knowing my base of knowledge. Unwise
I’m trying to save you from Satan brother Trevo Craw.
Jesus is a FALSE DEITY. The ultimate fraud
See past your blindness. Please brother!
Jesus is NOT the SAVIOR as spoken of by the Old Testament.
1) Prophecy can only exist in Isreal when the land is inhabited by a majority of Jews my friend. Jesus appeared 350 years LATER. (Targum – Isaiah 11:2; Maimonides – Teshuva 9:2)
2) The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23-24)
3) The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
4) Jesus did gather all jews back to the land of isreal (Isaiah 43:5-6)
5) Jesus did not build the third temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28)
6) Jesus did not usher in an era of world peace (Isaiah 2:4)
7) Jesus DID NOT UNITE humanity all over the world (Zechariah 14:9)
8) The end of the world didn’t occur in HIS DISCIPLES LIFE TIME (N.T)
9) The Torah SPECIFICALLY states God can not appear in ANY form
“You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live” (Exodus 33:18-20)
9b) “You did not see any form on the day G-d spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire” (Deuteronomy 4:15)
10) The Messiah will lead the people to full Torah observance. Anyone who changes the Torah is a false prophet.
How can Jesus exist then?
The Messiah (like Jesus in Islam) is NOT PART OF GOD in any way whatsoever.
Ironically the only religion that worships a part-man/image-idol participates in this.
Halloween
“Christmas”
LGBT
STOP WORSHIPPING THE IMAGE OF A MAN!
How can flesh encompass the image of God?
God doesn’t have private parts…he can’t have a Son…he can’t have a “mom”
READ YOUR BIBLE
We are all the “The Sons of God”…less you forget the biblical meaning of SON
The Paganistic “Trinity” with ties back to Ethiopia represent the same idol ism Abraham was sent to DESTROY!
You’ve been deceived!
The Bible Bible began WITH THE WORD
Abraham Slaughtered the Idols, NOT so you can end up worshipping one.
God DAMN sure wouldn’t allow himself to be FLESH let alone WHITE FLESH
TO THOSE WHO SAY I AM JUDGING
The Responsibilities of a Believer, according to the Bible, are not just to love and pray for people so stop watering down the Gospel to your comfort level. Other responsibilities including trying the spirits, rebuking, restoring, correcting, teaching, marking those who teach “another Gospel” and avoiding them.
Christ did every one of these things. So did the Apostles and the Prophets and John the Baptist. Those of you who want to ignore or abdicate these responsibilities simply try to make excuses because you want to do what is comfortable, not controversial. You want to follow the crowd and compromise by keeping your mouth closed to false ministers so as not to offend anybody. That is not the way of the Messiah nor the church HE founded.
Christ was a stumbling block and a rock of offense. And if He and the Apostles and the Prophets acted and thought like you, he would not have corrected anybody on anything. See 1 Peter 2:6-7
It is God who judges but it is His children who relay those judgments of His – not ours. In the process we expose those who came in among us but were not of us. The Bible tells us how to identify them because WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO JUST THAT.
I suggest you read and study all that we are to do instead of picking and choosing and following the passive crowd. I could give you the Bible verses IN CONTEXT for all that I just wrote but I am not doing your study for you. Wake up and admit ALL that the New Covenant tells us to do towards those who say they represent God in teaching the Word.
Stop making excuses of denial and blaming me for what you didn’t know to do, were afraid to do or too lazy to do.
To Mr Ventura,
First be careful because the belief in the Messiah and the New Covenant is very valid, has stood the test of time and serves as the road to Salvation. Yes many have hijacked the message, the Messiah and the pathway like the catholic church but that means their ways are corrupt. They have misrepresented the truth but that does not mean the truth is nonexistent.
You should be careful because what are you offering that is better? That has been proven? That has withstood the test of time? You are incorrect about the “black” man and woman being God. First there is no proof of that anywhere and you offer none. Second the argument is bogus because that would mean there are millions and millions of Gods. Third, a god would never need the help of man, not even a doctor or lawyer. Have you used either? I don’t think you understand the traits required to be “a god” and the level of superiority. You are proving that with your fallacious arguments.
You should not use logic and your lack of understand to try and prove anything. Neither are evidence. So when you say “why would God need to release a reboot”, you imply that He would not just because you can’t understand why He would. That is not evidence that refutes anything.
Religions were created by man and all are not contradictory. Where did you get the numbers of religions from? You will have to end up trusting what somebody says because you neither raised nor taught yourself. You are not your own god and the devil would love for you to think that you are.
Finally, I took the time to respond to you but don’t try to hijack this article and detract from the topic by spewing your empty atheism. I can see through that and so can many other readers.
Christianity is a slave religion that is dead by false-expansion. It tells the negro to forgive his racist abusers and to never think critically/logically. It tells the negro to be a slave to a “ghost spirit/mystery god” and not HIMSELF. The BLACK MAN/WOMAN is God, not what some long ago cult spread by rape and torture tells you.
Before the white oppressor Christianity was simply “another” religion in Ethopia. There were several religions in Africa living in harmony already. “Civilized” is a Euro-Missionary term of “supremacy” we didn’t need Christianity for any tangible purpose or reason.
Most of the “morals” of the bible already existed for hundreds of generations. There is nothing original or new in the book. Hell, THE STORIES THEMSELVES are TAKEN from African and even European Folk-lore. The Book of Dead > Genesis as one of the HUNDREDS OF EXAMPLES.
Why would God need to release a “reboot”. Perhaps this isn’t the final revelation since revelation comes from Man NOT GOD. **(See the Schizophrenics that wrote the New Testament, Abraham and Muhameed).
How is it there is allegedly ONE God, yet so many paths to reach him, each excluding the other?! (Trinity, Allah, Krisna, etc).
Clearly if God existed he wouldn’t make it a literal puzzle to find him. Their are so many people confused EACH told to read THEIR BOOKS, listen to THEIR SOUL, hear others DREAMS, chase out OTHER INFERIOR RELIGIONS.
Yet even Christianity is divided.
You argued against a Nigerian/”Spirit” Preachers on can you “heal” someone.
How can we reach spiritual unification when your religion not only is hostile to to other faiths. IT CAN’T EVEN GET ALONG WITH ITSELF!!!
How you throw shade on a fellow Christian because of some bible technicalities when you guys share practically the same conservative values AND the same sect in Christianity.
Final Thoughts: Christianity will eventually be defunct within 100 years.
Jesus Christ WILL NEVER return to this planet, because he doesn’t justify all the criteria in the Old Testament for him to be the savior anyway.
All you do is plagiarize and take certain events out of order, re-work them and accept them as cannon.
How the Hell God makes a Torah that says DO NOT ALTER, and he comes back 300 something years later with a “sequel”, then another sequel called Islam?
God is not a movie director…he doesn’t need “installments” or maybe he does because there is at least 600,000 contradictory religions.
Pardon any incorrectly spelled words. I am using a voice app. And I suggest many of you go back and study instead of attacking the messenger. Some of you are the very people who would have told John the Baptist to close his mouth or told the apostles not to come against the false ministers described in scripture. Or told the prophets to be quiet. Or told Christ that he was out of order by getting on the Pharisees. Wake up.
To Harold,
That can take care of the fakes. But you need to realize our God given responsibility to Mark those which cause divisions Among Us contrary to the doctrine of scripture and avoid them. That is the straight word of God uninterpreted. You also need to realize what 1st John 4:1 tells us to do in trying to Spirits to see if they are of God. We have responsibilities that too many people in the church have abdicated. Christ called out those who were not of God. The apostles did the same. The profits did the same. John the Baptist did the same. We have to fulfill our responsibilities, not just leave it up to God. He gives us instructions as to what we are to do as well as praying for others. People tend to want to do what is comfortable instead of follow all of the scripture in context based on New Testament and New Covenant. It is not wise to pick and choose what we want to follow under the New Covenant. None of us are perfect but we are to at least make the sincere effort to follow as much of it as we know and as much of it as we are able. The points I made in this article or failures of test in the Bible that Jakes fails miserably. People in denial will not even look at things objectively in light of scripture so they accuse me of bias and other falsehoods. I suggest they do more study and look at things for what they are instead of accusing me so they can live in denial. We have responsibilities.
To Eddie Lee,
I suggest you read closer before you try to criticize. First of all you have not refuted anything that I have said. Second of all I have given proof and examples. Third of all character is in fact revealing as to whether or not the person has the Holy Spirit within them. Fourth of all the Bible gives various tests throughout the text of scripture to fulfill first John 4:1. Your comments are just making noise and not contradicting the truth of what I have stated. Are you proving my point? Are you speaking from bias? Everybody has an opinion and a right to it but at the end of the day the Bible says let God be true and every man a liar. You need to go back and read slower with understanding. Or maybe you are just one of the people who is proving my point and that is why you cannot hear the truth.
To Gary,
While I have been licensed and ordained and approved by various non-denominational Council, my qualifications are not the issue here. The word of God is fit for reproof and correction and instruction and that is what I have done. A person does not have to be part of the five-fold ministry to fulfill that responsibility. Even though I am. But it’s not about me, it’s about the accuracy of scripture and fulfilling 1st John 4:1 without excuses.
To MRS ANIR,
You are proving my point and proving that you do not know the word of God as you say you do. If you did, you would understand that the fruits and Galatians chapter 5 are fruits of the Holy Spirit when he is present, not fruits of an individual. You would also understand that 1st John 4:1 is fulfilled in many ways by many different type tests that are in scripture. You are actually showing your bias and proving my point instead of objectively looking at the scriptures and comparing them to this fake minister.
From THE Author
It is really sad how many of you do not know the scripture very well and how many of you have been brainwashed to follow a man. I have handed you a dozen almost test of scripture and you have not been able to refute anything I have said. It is not by us, I provided evidence for everything I said. You really need to wake up, stop following a man and stop making excuses for people who have repeated flaws of failure yet they say they teach the word of God.
as much as I can see your point, I’m reminded of the work that is important. SAVING SOULS. i believe God can take care of the fakes. are we serving the Lord or are we serving the agenda of humanism by being intelligent judges .
Are you pastoring?…..are you real or fake?
Where can I attend your church?
Bunch of B.S.. No man is perfect, you are conflating a bunch of character traits and statements over the years and comparing that your beliefs about the Bible. The man seems to operate in the reason of helping people and inspiring them to be there best, whether or not you like the way he goes about doing it is irrelevant. We shouldn’t put as much stick as you have apparently, into any man. There is only one judge, get a life and stop jocking the brother, follow something or someone else. Or better yet, go and try to do more to help people vs hurting them. I haven’t listened to Jake’s in years but only because I filtered out what I needed from him as I do all other positive influence s and applied to my life where I needed it. Focus on you fake Christian and live your best life.
I disagree. I personally don’t care for T.D. Jakes, I’ve never been a fan, his preaching and teaching style are not my cup of tea. However, I did grow up in the church and I did learn the same Bible verses as the author. While some of his statements are true, most of what is listed is not testing individuals based on the fruits of the spirit, but bias. A lot of this article is reaching for the depths to fit a preconceived notion. The arrogant calling for “if you don’t agree with me, then you’re wrong” is so filled with pride and the same issues that plague the Christian community now. We are called to stand firmly on the Word of God in all aspects of life, but the lesson of the mistakes that Jakes makes as a leader are lost in a swarm of bias towards him period. The author basically sounds like only God can, judge but I’m here to be his mouth piece of judgement without really providing strong arguments. You aren’t testing the spirits, you’re complaining about an individual being more successful than you believe a man or woman of God should be and how that effects their lives as a Christian “leader”.