Nation of Islam’s philosophy and its effect on progressive Black America.

by Staff January 15, 2017 6 Comments News Opinion Politics Weekly Columns

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(ThyBlackMan.com) When I wrote one of my first articles for this site, I sent it to several black leaders in America, including Louis Farrakhan’s organization, Nation of Islam.

I figured that since I’m ranting about black values and how they are never modified to progress the race in America, I sent this letter out to black leaders, in hopes that one would read it and understand where I’m coming from.

I never received a reply from anyone, but I have gained a ton of wisdom from commenting on certain YouTube videos that discuss black issues.

The best wisdom I’ve revived is that black Americans who call themselves pro black is that they are stuck in the past, and unwillingly to let that guy Jim Crow go… But they embrace people named Killer and Baby.

Also, I’ve found that pro black people collectively feel that I’m the stupid sambo because I bring logic and I don’t enable archaic beliefs.

Therefore, it was no wonder that, when I posed questions to the #Ask Farrakhan hashtag, such as ‘ Why disturb the fabric of this country just because you’ve been taught to think like slaves?’, or, ‘ You don’t think the American way is the right way, when it’s right for everyone else?’ the response is, ‘What?’, and ‘Everyone knows that the task criminal is the government. Black people are products of injustice.’

These statements made me ask about the purpose of this organization to begin with. A tweeter shared with me that war in inevitable… All great changes in history started in war.

To put it all in a nutshell, I write that Farrakhan is, in my opinion, the largest slave owner in America. A follower of his rebutted by saying that, is anything, Farrakhan was the largest slave LOVER in America.

Somehow this person couldn’t argue with the fact that slave is still a term used to describe his followers, and possibly how they perceive black Americans in general.

I would say that organizations like this is what is keeping the black progressives from having the attention of black Americans, due to the enslavement if black minds through detrimental ideologies such as what this organization indoctrinates prisoners and lost people who are seeking direction outside of themselves with.

From the conversation on Twitter, I gathered that NOI looks to overthrow America’s government, and displace people who have a different point of view than then, to a separate state or town than them.

Logically, if black America has major problems in keeping a small neighborhood in tact and the property value up, what sane government would even think of giving away even a slice of its country for such false thinking? The utter delusion is what is keeping this group alive.

Therefore, black America should really look into the legitimacy of their group think. How amazing is it that blacks, collectively, can have the same rebuttals when someone brings up, ‘Hey! Maybe it’s your race’s fault for gentrification, police brutality and the destruction of our youth.’

My opinions, but what are yours… Individually speaking?

Staff Writer; Celeste Writer

Official website; http://celestewriter.com/

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NOI exposed says:

September 16, 2019 at 6:39 am

The Nation of Islam has been influenced by scientology since 2010.

Scientology believes mankind were once again beings held captive in a giant spaceship heading for earth. The captured slaves were then put in volcanoes, their bodies destroyed and souls or “theans” were spread.

Scientology has a dungeon in Clearwater Florida where people sign their souls for 8 Billion years. It has been known to treat people with leaches and kill them, there and several other places at their compound.

Scientology tracks people down and dominates their life and their wallet for this expensive “technology”

Farakhan lied when he said his NOI members were only pursuing basic level Dianetics. A well researched day on Facebook shows otherwise, such as advanced certification.

L.Ron Hubbard was known to be racist and mentally ill on top of this.
L.Ron Hubbard was friends will Crowley, a well known racist-eugenicist.
L.Ron Hubbard quoted how his father said he, “Is Satan”.
L.Ron Hubbard was quoted “If you want to get rich make a religion” before he made Scientology.

There is evidence that the NOI was practicing scientology BEFORE 2010. Royall Jenkins an evil cult-runner who ran the long defunct U.N.O.I showed interest before Farrakhan jumped at the opportunity. Royall’s organization eventually collapsed. See, “Heaven is Hell, Kansas” for more info on that.

Farrakhan claims to hate white people but wanted to team up with the KKK once.
Farrakhan claims to hate white people but worships Fard Muhameed (a Turk).
Farrakhan claims to hate white people yet follows L-Ron’s Scientology.
Farrakhan claims to hate white people yet is paid by the FBI to help prisoners.
Farrakhan claims to hate white people but acted VERY bold after Malcom X died.
Farrakhan claims to hate white people yet betrayed Khalid Muhameed.
Farrakhan claims to hate white people yet thinks Trump is a “good leader”.

It’s obvious the NOI was funded to stop true black revolutionaries and weaken the power of the Church.

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AccuseSelfFirst says:

January 18, 2017 at 1:34 am

Sorry for the late reply, but this chat does not notify you when one responds…

I know you probably won’t read this whole post but, at least read the closing…

To your 1st paragraph – I didn’t mention anything about reading, I stated “the mountains of lectures” which should have given you a clue that I meant some sort of audio/video, but I then went on to state, ”A cursory search on what Min. Farrakhan teaches from YouTube…” which further cited to a video source….at any rate, your statement “’m not sure what you’re reading, especially when it comes to male/female relationships and economic empowerment” tells me, and anyone who actually listens to The Minister that you have not listened, or maybe its more like tried to listen for whatever bias you hold. There are literaly hundreds of hours spent on the subjects in general, and specifically. One wouldn’t have to go bak as much as 6-7 moths to find his call to support black business, Economic boycott (save your black dollars), #UpwithJesusDownwithSanta.

1. We can’t have a generation of boys and girls thinking the way out of poverty is to sell drugs or rap about it, which is the case for so many black youth.

To your 2nd paragraph – Are you seriously implying that this is what the NOI teaches our youth, seriously?!?
?We can’t say that we are the best stewards of land, either, though it was our ancestors who cared for American land… Which went on to be known as the land of milk and honey.

To your 3rd paragraph – I don’t even think we can be qualified as “stewards of land” with the masse of us growing up n inner city slums, not owning a 1/8 acre of land to care for. How about, we have not had the ability (socio, economic, educationally, etc.) to buy and own land, and then taught to properly care and use it to keep some good?
?My observations can be seen on my Twitter handle @celestewriter01.?I figure if I only wrote about black dis-empowerment caused by the government and white man, there would be less questioning about my motive. I would be enabling what I call the black hustle.

To your 4th paragraph – You can write what you want, its your God given right to do so, however, seems like you have some how convinced yourself that in order to not write about black dis-empowerment, that you HAVE to write, and tear down another black organization for others (who, P.S.A do not like you anyway) to delight in. I’d say your doing just the opposite; of what you claim to be avoiding, enabling the “white hustle” in the name of being even keeled. You could have easily wrote about “black empowerment”…or at the very least, state the you do not agree with everything that the NOI/Min. Farrakhan believes, but can see some of the good in his messages also. OR, how about this, not speak on the NOI at all??? You have options, which again, tells me you hold some grudge, or prejudice based on a sound bite or something. None the less, you are clearly misinformed, or not informed at all. Either way, I think its a Writing 101 rule that you should not comment, or make blanket statements on subjects, or subject matter that you only have a scant knowledge of. Hence your question, “I’m not sure what you’re reading, especially when it comes to male/female relationships and economic empowerment.” you would know, had you done your research, but I guess opinion articles don’t require any research
?To even be questioned in regards to what I wrote is very telling. It speaks volumes on the unaccountability of black America.

To your 5th paragraph – Coming from a writer, writing an “opinion” article at that, its sounds mighty hypocritical for you to sound off on someone questioning what you wrote as if your opinion. I do apologize, but I thought you were a writer with an opinion like the rest of us, didn’t know your were THE authority on such matters, and not to be questioned. And that when questioned, that would be the tell-tale sign of unaccountability for all of black America.

To your 6th paragraph – First I’d like you to define racist, then explain to me the difference between what you have head Min. Farrakhan stay and what, say your grandmother or father have said about white people. Then I’d like you to draw just one DIRECT parallel between the NOI and say the KKK…There’s a difference in noting what one race has already done to another and speaking plainly about it, verses openly stating that you hate another race for no reason what so ever, and not only say it, but pit action behind it in the form of beatings and lynchings, etc. You can’t find me one instance in the last 40-50 years in where a member of the NOI has been the aggressor against another race. If he was so racist, why would a Father Pfleger (a white catholic priest) stand up for The Minister, and visit his house for dinner frequently…or someone like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. stand with the NOI against vaccinations, and specifically speak on the disproportionate numbers of autism in the black community?…or the members of L Ron Hubbards Scientology (I understand that you’ll probably write them off as some cult, but I put them here anyway) welcome the NOI, and even speak at the annual Saviours Day event on their respect for The Minister? I’d say you have drifted t far into the “all lives matter” zone…not that all lives don’t matter, however, and I quote (somewhat) “if there is a run a way fire approaching a small community, do you say “all houses matter” and even distribute resources to “all houses” even though only a few are at risk of being burnt to a crisp?
Below are excerpts from What the Muslim Want and Believe, it has appeared on the back of the Final call news paper since its inception. Tell me how how these points show the the NOI wants to want to “rebel against your country” and that we believe were in the wrong country”

1. We want freedom. We want a full and complete freedom.
2. We want justice. Equal justice under the law. We want justice applied equally to all, regardless of creed or class or color.
3. We want equality of opportunity. We want equal membership in society with the best in civilized society.
4. We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own–either on this continent or elsewhere. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years–until we are able to produce and supply our own needs.
Since we cannot get along with them in peace and equality, after giving them 400 years of our sweat and blood and receiving in return some of the worst treatment human beings have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by white America, justifies our demand for complete separation in a state or territory of our own.

8. WE BELIEVE in justice for all, whether in God or not; we believe as others, that we are due equal justice as human beings. We believe in equality–as a nation–of equals. We do not believe that we are equal with our slave masters in the status of “freed slaves.”
We recognize and respect American citizens as independent peoples and we respect their laws which govern this nation.
9. WE BELIEVE that the offer of integration is hypocritical and is made by those who are trying to deceive the black peoples into believing that their 400-year-old open enemies of freedom, justice and equality are, all of a sudden, their “friends.” Furthermore, we believe that such deception is intended to prevent black people from realizing that the time in history has arrived for the separation from the whites of this nation.
If the white people are truthful about their professed friendship toward the so-called Negro, they can prove it by dividing up America with their slaves. We do not believe that America will ever be able to furnish enough jobs for her own millions of unemployed, in addition to jobs for the 20,000,000 black people as well.

To your 7th paragraph – I find it very demeaning and somewhat lofty of you to relegate the many who love The Minister/NOI to mindless drones that don’t have brain to use in order to make decisions for themselves. It makes one think you believe that you, and you alone know whats best for black people, and you have come to save us from our brainless selves, because after all, that many black people who believe different than you and love what they hear from the NOI have got to be brainwashed right? The more I read your statements, the more I wonder how much faith., love and belief you have in your people. This is an excellent segway into your closing statements…..

To your 8th & 9th paragraphs – I would argue that the NOI and Min Farrakhan are one of the few valid groups left. And have been, (regardless of your opinion) for the last 40-50 years…and still standing. I don’t know what your coined term “black hustle” really means, but for the sake of argument lets say it is valid, and somehow benefits the “hustler”, what is the benefit? Financial? Power?….and again, these mindless black people “will continue to unnecessarily struggle to keep groups like this alive” why, to what end? Please explain, because without some concrete evidence, you sound worse than any conspiracy theorist out there now. If one only wanted money and power, there would be a easier, faster way to do so. Teaching people on unity, dong for self, to respect and protect the Black woman, stop the killings, etc. is surely a “over the hills and through the woods” way of doing it.

I challenge you to show me how embracing the new means to “release” the old. The way you worded it is “release”, but I really think side stepped using the word forget. What in your mind makes “the old” as such? Does racism no longer exist against people of color in a disproportionate rate in all facets of life? I’m not talking about just rhetoric , I mean the actual enactment where some +300 unarmed black men get gunned down by the so called “peace officers”. I’ll tell you what, you keep believing things are old and not relevant, tell your children in 10-20 years that the police killings were in the past and they need not worry about that now as if it were something that came out of a vacuum. The wise of us will instead, remember the past, build from it, so that we can create the new. There is nothing in existence that was not built upon the past.

And you finish off with your re-occurring theme that black people are so dumb that they have become slaves and unable to think for themselves. Regardless to what you would like to believe, slavery is not just a historic event, it is institutional, it is physiological, a burden handed down generation after generation, not intentionally, but the institutions set up won’t let you forget it. You may not call it slavery by name, but the masses are in a condition that is directly related to our 400 years as slaves, and to not understand how that affects t our lives now is to live in a perpetual lie where you either accept your reality as though you were just born to be this way, or you “make it out”, and will look back on your own people like, “get yourself up!”, or even worse, not look back at all because you think you can separate your accomplishments from the masses failures.

In closing, I would really re-evaluate how you express your discontent, who you decide to drag under the bus with this expression, and to whom it can be used against. As the saying goes, “If you propose to speak, always ask yourself, is it true, is it necessary, is it kind?”

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Gayle Jenkins (Celestewriter01) says:

January 16, 2017 at 1:57 pm

I’m not sure what you’re reading, especially when it comes to male/female relationships and economic empowerment. The problem with economic empowerment, is that the way blacks view money is detrimental to long term wealth building.

We can’t have a generation of boys and girls thinking the way out of poverty is to sell drugs or rap about it, which is the case for so many black youth.

We can’t say that we are the best stewards of land, either, though it was our ancestors who cared for American land… Which went on to be known as the land of milk and honey.

My observations can be seen on my Twitter handle @celestewriter01.

I figure if I only wrote about black dis-empowerment caused by the government and white man, there would be less questioning about my motive. I would be enabling what I call the black hustle.

To even be questioned in regards to what I wrote is very telling. It speaks volumes on the unaccountability of black America.

This NOI organization isn’t a secret racist group, it’s a public racist group, showing that these guys are ready to rebuilt against my country to withhold their belief that they’re in the wrong country and will overthrow this country to make it their own and to rectify history, which is delusional at best.
The fact that there are so many blacks who believe in organizations like this tells me that there are too many any blacks who can’t stand alone or think for themselves.

In another decade, will groups like this be valid?

If so, that would mean that the black hustle works, and blacks will continue to unnecessarily struggle to keep groups like this alive.

Any spiritualist worth their weight will tell you that in order to embrace the new, the past… The old, must be released. Why keep holding on to slavery and the emotions involved if I’ve hasn’t personally experienced it physically, emotionally or spiritually?

What is the NOI and groups like it, good for besides keeping slavery alive in the minds of black people?

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GregAbdul says:

January 16, 2017 at 11:07 am

Now I ain’t editing myself:
Correction:

If they are wrong, you are a worm when someone asks you about wrong and you lack the guts to call out evil, even when evil is Minister Negro Hitler conning black blacks, just cause Minister Negro Hitler’s got light off-white skin.

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GregAbdul says:

January 16, 2017 at 11:05 am

you are on the right track. You need to tighten your editing. Black people have a pathological relationship with the NOI. 95% of blacks will tell you, “I ain’t in the Nation, but I agree…” That talk is blatant Negro Hypocrisy and backwards thinking. If they are right, then you are wrong for not being one. If they are wrong, you are a worm when someone asks you about wrong and you have the guts to call out evil, even when evil is Minister Negro Hitler conning black blacks, just cause Minister Negro Hitler’s got light off-white skin.

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AccuseSelf1st says:

January 15, 2017 at 11:14 pm

Your argument was hard to follow, and not very cogent in my opinion. What I will say is that our people gain nothing from the outward dismissal, rejection, and libel of our organizations (not just the NOI). However, what you become is a witting (or unwitting) tool for those who delight in our disunity…they especially love when they can sit back and just watch us do it to ourselves. If after a few questions and replies (in what seems to be a half hearted attempt at getting answers to the NOI and Minister Farrakhan motives), all you can gather, even in the face of the mountains of lectures on self pride, unity, economic empowerment, male/female relationships, black love, etc. is that “he’s biggest owner of slaves”, then one (actually everyone) actually looking for answers should question your motives. A cursory search on what Min. Farrakhan teaches from YouTube would tell you he’s about the exact opposite. But I gotta think you know that…so who really profited from the above article ????

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