(ThyBlackMan.com) Ron Paul appeared on an early morning Fox News Television Show with Chris Wallace as host. (See embedded links below)
When asked by Chris Wallace about support for other GOP candidates if he is not the candidate for 2012, Paul answered with a wordy ‘NO’. Ron Paul declares that he may not endorse either of the candidates….,
“If they believe in expanding the wars, if they don’t believe in looking at the Federal Reserve, if they don’t believe in real cuts, if they don’t believe in deregulation and a better tax system, it would defy everything I believe in,” he said.
Supporting a candidate without those libertarian views on small government would be like telling his supporters that “all we’ve done is for naught,” he said.
“It would disagree with everything that we do,” Ron Paul added.
Watch Paul’s response to Fox News’s Chris Wallace. (Video)
When asked if he would run as a 3rd party candidate, Ron Paul answered, that he would not.
While Straw Polls are nohting more than ‘popularity’ contests, Ron Paul won an Illinois ‘straw Poll with 52% of the vote.
I will admit to not viewing the entire Fox New show this morning. Even without the viewing, I wonder how the candidate who is down in the polls reacts to certain questions. For Instance, Wallace asked Paul about supporting another candidate should he fail to win the nomination. How should a candidate answer such a question? “I would support Herman Cain, if I do not take the nomination.” Do you see the futility in Wallace’s question? No intelligent candidate would respond to such a question.
Ron Paul, a modern-day enigma.
I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I am very much against most libertarian views whether those views be conservative or liberal libertarian views. Yet. I will readily admit that Paul’s views on the wars directly coincide with my views. Views that he most espouse do not coincide with my views but his convictions are admirable.
Candidate ‘convictions’ is an area in politics that often fluctuates. Candidates most definitely ‘speak to audiences’. It is a basic tenet of public speaking: audience centrism. Political candidates use ‘hyperbolic speak’ more than any group of modern-day speakers. Example, Newt Gingrich is a master at ‘strategic hyperbolic speak’. He will go on stage with an audience of wealthy supporters in Georgia and comment about ‘Obama as a welfare President”. Gingrich would probably not deliver such a comment if invited to appear at a middle class speaking engagement in Appalachia or in any large urban area.
Ron Paul? Regardless of audience would make his comments and stand for the applause or the boos.
An even more stark example of Ron Paul’s convictions. Candidate Santorum made one of his commonly inane comments about Muslims and the wars. Paul took exception to Santorum’s comments by saying (paraphrase) all Muslims are not bad people and carpeting condemnation is not ‘right’. He received a chorus of boos but he was unflappable in finishing his statement. I doubt the other eight candidates would have spoken against Santorum’s blanket and insensitive remarks.
As previously written, Ron Paul’s views and positions do not mesh with views I think are critical for a fair an equitable political environment, but his persistent adherence to his convictions is very much noteworthy. Especially in an environment where we have Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney and Herman Cain.
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Non objective purview if you ask me. Facts are here
http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2011/11/ron-paul-70-on-cnbcs-poll-yanked-after.html
RON PAUL OR BUST 2012!!! EITHER WE SAVE OURSELVES OR WISH LATER WE WOULD HAVE…I BELONG TO A GROUP OF THOUSANDS OF DEMOCRATS WHO ARE PLEDGING TO WRITE RON PAUL IN!
Wow, Joseph, no need to apologize for the long comment – what you said was great. If you have a blog I want to know where it is. If you don’t you should start one. I’ll be your first follower. Very well said, my friend.
freedom to succeed… freedom to fail. in a way, it is a frightening proposition. realize the reason for our economic malaise right now is too much debt and not enough savings. also realize that if the federal reserve bank was not manipulating interest rates right now, then people would be saving because bank savings accounts would probably yield 10-15% interest. instead, rates are less than 1%; nobody is saving.. and our problems are getting worse. not the bankers problems, but ours are. Ron Paul is the only one who will fix this mess.
Something the author needs to realize is that ‘equality’ is not about everyone having the same amount of money or opportunities. It’s about having a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. Some people will always rise above others and their children in-turn will benefit from this. There’s nothing wrong with someone working hard and succeeding. It’s about having a system in which this is possible.
That’s all that Ron Paul is trying to achieve by reducing the influence of the FED. The Fractional Reserve Banking system is what allows banks to make the kind of money they make and it has nothing to do with the free market. It’s the Fed (a pseudo government organization) that allows this system to exist.
Julian Alien, I think you missed the point of my post.
Good article,and thank you for being honest.You never did say which things you disagree with Ron about.Most don’t.They just disagree for some vague reason.Joseph lost me when he started saying that if Ron was in charge in the 40’s…First of all Ron would have known about the Nazi party being supported by foreign traitors living in America and shut them down..We had intelligence reports back then too.The Nazis would have never gotten off the ground without American support.William Hearst,Joseph Kennedy (JFK’s father)Charles Lindburgh,Prescott Bush(Georges G.Father),John Rockefeller,Henry Ford,Andrew Mellon,Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA),DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon),I.T.T.,National City Bank,and General Electric were all supporting the rise of Hitler and should be considered treason to the world.
I will start by apologizing for some of the comments from our more zealous supporters. I would like to thank you for the fair article and invite you to elaborate on some of the issues you disagree with Dr. Paul. There are plenty of half truths out there, propagated by sides of the spectrum, as neither party is interested in your freedom. Let’s talk and see where we agree.
TB, good article! I don’t care for some of Ron Paul’s views either, but the idea of getting us out of wars alone is enough for me! Obama is going to take us to war with Iran. This is after he stated in 2007
Senator Barack Obama has launched his campaign to become America’s first black president by calling for US troops to leave Iraq.
Ina speech in Illinois he said America had no place in someone else’s civil war.
“America, it is time to start bringing our troops home,” he told crowds in Springfield.
And although he gave no details he said he had a plan to complete the withdrawal from Iraq by March 2008
If you do not vote for Ron Paul, then who?
There are obviously reasons why people would be hesitant to support a Ron Paul presidency. The people concerned with terrorism, for instance, may not support a person who thinks that terrorism is something that can be handled through diplomacy and free trade more than bombing and economic sanctions. They will remember history lessons from school and know, for a fact, that if the United States had tried such things in the 1940s, we would all be speaking German and no Jews would be left on the planet. They’re incredibly mistaken, of course, but that is what they know and it is very hard to convince people that what they know is wrong. Those people will not, for example, think about the causes of World War I, which led to such deplorable conditions in Germany that Hitler was able to rise to power.
They won’t connect entangling alliances, arbitrarily drawn political boundaries, economic sanctions, financial irresponsibility, and demagoguery with subsequent events in human history — The Cold War, Vietnam, Korea, Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, and, ultimately, the War on Terror. The won’t do it because they know what they know and nothing else matters. It is quite sad, actually, that our fellow Americans are so loyal to false knowledge and embracing fear rather than looking for solutions.
This same mindset appears to apply to those who are hesitant to support Ron Paul’s domestic agenda. Freedom, once fought for with lives, is now something we fear as well. We have been convinced, because we know, that the government needs to engineer society, to redistribute wealth, and to protect us from ourselves. Yet, we see, over and over again, examples of why such programs and initiatives do not work.
Instead of creating a more equal society, such government interventions create dependency, moral hazard, and a divided populace. As the Department of Education spends more and more money, our students continue to descend in the rankings of the educated internationally, as just one example, although there are more. The War on Drugs, for instance, a program with good intentions, surely, has incarcerated generations of people, predominately from minority populations, yet drug use is still rampant and statistics regarding whether usage has dropped are faulty, at best, due to the instruments used to measure usage rates. The attempt at helping all Americans achieve the “American Dream” of owning a home has led to millions who are now homeless and, to add insult to injury, unemployed.
And, it won’t stop as long as we continue to do the same things that caused such problems in the first place. One way that we can fix problems is by taking charge of our own lives, regardless of our station, and being active politically. If not us, then who? Do we believe that the elites really have our best interests at heart? Do we believe that the ballot has as much power as the dollar? It is often said that we can change our government with the ballot, but we cannot change the boards of evil corporations. Certainly we can, by not allowing the government to choose winners and losers, by allowing businesses to fail, and by using the law to prosecute individuals who engage in fraud or other illicit activities, yet the system encourages blind eyes.
Additionally, our votes may change our representatives, senators, and executives in government, but they rarely, if ever, change the nature of the thousands of organizations within the government; the organizations that, constantly, fail to do their jobs because, as any student of sociology will tell you, they fall victim to the very nature of such bureaucracies. This explains why government, although inefficient and unable to balance budgets, continues to grow and expand to the rate that one out of every ten adult Americans works for a government agency at some level at averages between at least $3,600 per month, and, at most, $5,700 per month. What a fair system!
It is time for substantial change and it will not come by endorsing the same policies that prove to yield nothing but unintended consequences. While none of us, even those advocating freedom, can predict the future, can we not agree that we should be able to have dominion over our lives instead of overpaid government employees who were not elected following regulations that were not even approved by the people?
I apologize for the long rant and I know that, certainly, things should be much better for Americans now than they are, regardless of race, but we will see no improvement unless we, as Americans, take our government back and put it in the hands of active, intelligent, and thoughtful citizens. As long as we’re holding onto party affiliation, false knowledge, ignorance of consequences, and actively rejecting peace, friendship, and freedom, I’m not sure there is much hope for our children.
Good stuff, TBM. I don’t agree with everything Paul says either, but I agree with him more than I do with anyone else who’s running for President. If he doesn’t get the Republican nomination, I’ll be writing him in next November.
” I am very much against most libertarian views whether those views be conservative or liberal libertarian views.”
What? how? What is this article even about?
http://ronpaul2012.podbean.com/mf/web/hfy8px/TheCreatureFromJekyllIsland.mp3
for those with an hour to listen, here is why paul needs to win.
end the fed. and after a listen you will be amazed at how controlled we are when we don’t control the money supply.
I hate when people us the term “un-American” but if you honestly are against Ron Pauls core believes of following the constitution, creating a strong defence over a perpetual war policy, and real fiscal responsibility, that term may apply to you.
Isn’t being an “American” insisting that we pursue a government that follows the constitution and if it falters, we correct it with our right to vote? When did being an American become relying on the government to handle every aspect of our lives? We need to gain our self responsibility and reliance back; that is something truly to be proud of.
the criminals are quite comfortable with President Obama in power
he protects them from prosecution
and
he reliably follows their orders
ron paul or no GOP at all
Ron Paul campaign contributors- The people
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“…a fair an equitable political environment.” What does this mean?
What’s not to love about the Libertarian Party?
As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.
We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.
Consequently, we defend each person’s right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.
An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.
I agree with your sentiment that RP sticks to his convictions but not sure you know what your talking about when you say you are against liberty! So what wonderful system do you propose? Feudalism…. I think what you cant comprehend is the down side of absolute freedom which requires a major mind change towards self reliance which requires people to save and think through their actions well ahead of time because they are going to have to live with the consequences. “Act in haste, repent at your leisure!”
“Ron Paul’s views and positions do not mesh with views I think are critical for a fair an equitable political environment….”
Here are some facts everyone should know.
1. The 6th amendment dictates that every president and congressman shall pledge an oath to the Constitution of the United States to uphold it always.
2. Nothing in the Constitution says we all have the right to equal divvy of wealth. If the govt takes from me and gives to someone that is too lazy to work, that is not equity, that is theft.
3. The Constitution provides me with freedom and liberty and justice. That’s all. What is equal is that no matter what race, gender, or religion I am, I will get an equal amount of freedom and liberty and justice as anyone else.
Ron Paul’s convictions of getting us out of war ‘Will’ improve your life and those around you.
LOL isnt this the same guy that accused Paul of writing some racist letters years ago? LOL at your POOR POOR “journalism”. Why dont you figure out why Obamas #1 contributor is Goldmann Sachs. You know one of those pesky abnks the gov bailed out.
Ron Paul’s “convictions” really are what make him the most logical candidate out of the GOP bunch. Why should we elect someone without any “convictions” again? Look where it has gotten us. (Obama/Bush- Trillions of dollars in debt)
The Era of flip-flopper presidents must come to an end. I am simply sick and tired of being flat out lied to, and then getting screwed.
I don’t like all of Ron Paul’s policies, but lets face it, he is BY FAR the most honest GOP candidate. He will actually work to accomplish the goals he has established, and you can tell he will not falter. Unlike candidates like Romney and Herman Cain, you know EXACTLY where Ron Paul stands.
There will be no “unpleasant surprises” should RP be elected president (:
“but his persistent adherence to his convictions is very much noteworthy.”
and make him the only person left to believe in, and vote for.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com
Please donate 11/11/11 and for once, choose the right path.
I like that Ron’s conviction is noted positively in this article. I noticed that you mentioned his opposition to war. One thing is for sure if nobody else will end the wars, Ron Paul will. He’s a guy who does what he says he will do. I think a lot of people are scared of a Ron Paul presidency for various reasons, but I am not. I’m obviously a supporter of his, but when I know what to expect from someone, it’s much easier to want to vote for them.
I don’t know what Romney, Cain, Perry, or even Obama would REALLY do because they constantly flip flop, or lie about their intentions. I have a good idea of what Obama will do in the next four years, and if it’s like these past four, no thanks. We need a president who works for the people, not a dictator.
With Ron Paul, you know what you’re getting. A man that will work for the people(and way cheaper I might add.) We’ve tried typical Republicans with their talk of cutting budgets a little bit and doing some nation building, and we’ve even had an extreme left President as of late who has put through health care reform, etc. To me both sides have failed because the country is in quite a pickle.
We need to try something else, and Ron Paul, the guy that warned us about and predicted one of the worst economic disasters of our time, is running for president. We should elect him.
So youre very much against liberty huh? well, thankfully there are places in the world that accept your blatant ignorance of personal responsibility and freedom and enjoy the idea of total state dependency, perhaps China would be a better country for you to live.. food for thought