(ThyBlackMan.com) “My mama whooped by butt and I turned out okay.” Many of us have heard our parents or other relatives say these very words. Some people believe that whippings are the answer to everything and others feel that it’s not even an option.
Thirty and forty years ago the opposition to spanking children was not widely discussed by blacks, but this view is changing. For years outsiders of our community have remarked that we whip our children more than other races. Outsiders have voiced their concern that this parenting choice is not a good one. However, people from our own community are beginning to speak out against spanking.
Blacks in the area of mental health are sharing their opposition on the subject matter.
Dr. Alvin F. Poussaint, a Harvard Medical School psychiatrist who has studied mental health issues and parenting in African-American communities, is a leading voice against corporal punishment. Poussaint feels that it’s an uphill battle.
“It’s culturally embedded in America that spanking is a legitimate and good way to discipline children. But the fact is, nearly all studies, except for a few, say it is not a good way of disciplining and can actually produce damage,” Poussaint said. “We have such damage in the black community, when you add to parents beating their kids; it’s sending the message that violence is an okay way to solve problems.”
As early as 1968, information on this very subject was published in a book entitled Black Rage. Two black San Francisco-based psychiatrists shook white America with their book Black Rage. Dr. William H. Grier and Dr. Price M. Cobbs wrote a grim and painful portrayal of the anger and frustration plaguing black people in the United States. Based on case histories of African American men and women who underwent psychotherapy during the early 1960s, it was one of the first books to examine the mental health of black Americans and quick to become a classic in the field of African American studies.
The book tells us that black folks learned to beat their children from slavery. In Black Rage it was noted that “Beating in child-rearing actually has its psychological roots in slavery and even yet black parents will feel that, just as they have suffered beatings as children, so it is right that their children be so treated. This kind of physical subjugation of the weak forges early in the mind of the child a link with the past and, as he learns the details of history, with slavery per se.”
I will admit that as a black parent I don’t whoop my child a lot and definitely not for every little thing and I know for a fact that my child is not disciplined in the full fashion of my grandmother. But I will spare the rod when necessary because sometimes it’s needed.
I began to wonder if I am the only African American parent that disciplines their child without endless spankings. Are African Americans still stuck in the mind set of slavery? This led me to conduct a very unscientific survey by posing the question to a Facebook group made up mainly of African Americans ranging from the age of 30 to 60 plus.
The results from my informal Facebook survey may be surprising to some and not so surprising to others. I discovered from my small group that many African American parents may not whip their kids as often as others would have us think. All African Americans are not using switches, extension cords, shoes, pots and pans or whatever is in reach. Some African Americans are actually choosing alternative methods as opposed to whipping their children at the drop of a hat.
A few commented that any type of whipping was a form of child abuse. While others believed that there was nothing wrong with whipping a child to discipline them. Members also shared their alternative methods for punishment. They ranged from no TV, games or outside activities to extra academic work. It was also noted that the punishment may vary from child to child. One person made a valid point that what works for one child may not work for another.
Even though study after study shows that physical punishment may be detrimental to a child’s development. Many parents black or white for that matter would disagree. Spanking is not always the answer, but in some cases it is looked at as a necessary evil.
Are disciplinary spankings really child abuse? Are they still necessary? In today’s society children have more freedom than ever. Some are given freedom to express their thoughts and feelings even when it means speaking to adults in a disrespectful manner. Is the lack of a good old fashion butt whooping the reason behind our troubled a youth?
I don’t totally agree with the thought that spankings are tied to slavery. Slavery may play a role somewhat in affecting our mindset in punishment. But blacks are not the only ones discipline their children by whippings. So that leaves me to ask the question. Why can’t the decision of whipping your child be more of a personal choice than a cultural or racial one?
I am sure this debate will continue on. But in the end when it is all said and done parents will have the right to raise their children in the way they see fit.
Staff Writer; Eleanie Campbell
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What does it look like to see a heavyweight prize fighter beat up a first grader with his/her hands tied? That’s what it looks like for a parent to beat his/her offspring. Criminal and barbaric!!! Can you image a supervisor beating employees for being late? But it’s ok for an adult to beat kids?
Why does to love mean to beat? Why does to protect mean to harm? I don’t know the answers, but so many people say they are protecting and loving their kids when they harm them. One would hypothesis parents (adult age people) are smarter than their kids (fragile, defenseless, developing little people). But too often that remains to be unseen, namely when “adults” beat their children because they feel angry or frustrated. How smart is that? So many people say they turned out okay from the beatings they suffered by the hands of their parents. But did they really?
It’s clear to me that a parent who beats his or her kid to discipline lacks discipline. Perhaps the beatings they endured as kids didn’t teach them enough.
I am developing a new friendship with a sister who is deaf and mute. When I will know her better, I will ask her if she was spanked during her youth. I hope her answer will be no because otherwise it would be disgusting!!! Growing up, we have to deal with racism at school and so on, it is unacceptable that too many Black parents spank us to raise us. We live in a world that hate us and I believe that when we become adults the fact that many of us were deprived of having affectionate parents makes it very difficult to build successful nurturing relationships. There are no other groups beside us that have so many single mothers. This situation is not normal and we have to look at ourselves in the mirror. Most of the time, Black parents spank their kids for frivolous reasons and they take out their rage on their children because of unemployment, etc. Most of the time their anger has nothing to do with the kids. Adults who have 0 patience have no business to have kids. Children love me, I use humor with them when things need to be done. There are other creative and intelligence ways to raise them.
Let me first state that there is a difference between getting beat and using corpal punishment as a form of discipline!! I will not and cannot be fooled by any article relating to using corpal punishment as a way to discipline being wrong and leading to violence. Look at the turn of parenting styles around the 1970’s and look at the trend of violence and how it continues to raise as parents step away from corpal punishment. Honestly a lot of children are entitled and spoiled and will not listen to any other adult other than a parent. If you don’t believe me look at arrest and conviction trends over the years. Look at the amount of prisons we build and the inability for most parents to control their child. How do we say this is from slavery when cultures all over the world use a form of corpal punishment as discipline? My husband is from West Africa, from the Mandingo tribe, a descendant of Royalty and he will spank my son when needed. Not only will he spank him he will give a very harsh punishment along with it (no TV., no playing with toys, and going to bed hours earlier then his normal bed time, for 1 to 2 weeks) Other cultures take child rearing extremely serious and the respect they install into their children at a young age to obey comes through various forms of discipline including corpal punishment. I just think as African Americans we have to do more research on our own. Read statistics, read studies, learn about other cultures. We have a heritage and everything about it is not from our slave master and not from Europeans. Also emotional scars are a lot worse than the physical ones. So when a child suffers from emotional issues they are certainly not from being disciplined by a parent and maybe their issues surrounding the parent child relationship. Another thing that I have yet been able to obtain is the studies that many talk about in correlation to spankings, IQ’s and also what the study ” Operational Definintion” of physical discipline consists of? Sounds like to me the studies are about children who have been physically abused and not appropriately disciplined.
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Asian Americans have the harshest forms of child discipline in the U.S.
Google “Asian Americans and discipline.”
“Separating Love, Abuse for Asians : Culture: Immigrants find that disciplinary measures considered responsible parenting in their homelands may be improper in U.S.”
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-09-18/local/me-40145_1_asian-culture
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“There’s an old Chinese saying that dates back to ancient China that goes, “To be beaten is a sign of affection, to be scolded is a sign of love (???????).” I got that line from my parents a number of times after being taught a lesson the Chinese way.”
http://freshgrads.sg/articles/career-money/life-skills/1901-child-discipline-asian-vs-american#.U_8N76NSlkE
“But in the end when it is all said and done parents will have the right to raise their children in the way they see fit”
The problem with this is that us Africans in the west, do not have a clear cut blue print based off our African cultural experience. We have at most an haphazard, hit and miss approach to child rearing. Long before discipline comes into play, we have to have a child rearing blue print that is not based on a European model, not a African-American model (since that one is not sound)while whipping a child is not good, being lenient is an excuse for not having a functional child rearing approach. Believe it or not, children do more from watching us than from listenning to us and when we do things contrary to what we tell them, then how can we be mad at them for their own inconsistancies?
I am from the west indies and the violence I saw growing up disgusied as child discipline supports the authors statement that this is one of the numerous toxic left overs from the African Ma’afa, that we need to purge.
Wonderful article! Please check out Spare the Kids http://www.sparethekids.com. Dr. Stacey Patton, an African-American historian and a leader in this movement, writes and speaks persuasively about the slave roots of spanking/whipping/beating our children.
Also, the author Asadah has a book, Beating Black Kids, and website, http://www.beatingblackkids.com, and she, too, is raising consciousness and helping to change the culture.
If we truly “believe the children are our future,” it’s time to move forward and truly begin to heal.
Why is it that we perpetually look to mankind for answer to our woes. The world is in a horrendous ordeal and it is because of man and his fallible ways that have created the ills of this world and the world is not getting any better. Have we not forgotten doctor Spock, his philosophy was on none spanking and it was a total disaster. For those who seem to link spanking with slavery, please produce the empirical evidence. All cultures have used spanking as a tool to discipline children.If we want answers on how to discipline children, we should look to GOD and JESUS for the correct way to discipline our children.The bible holds all the answers to living a good life in all aspects.
Psalm 127
1 If it is not the LORD who builds a house,
the builders are wasting their time.
Jeremiah 10:23
New King James Version (NKJV)
23 O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself;
It is not in man who walks to direct his own steps.
My husband and I can count the number of times that we were spanked by our respective parents on two hands. Neither of us were whipped although I did receive a few “switch” spankings from my great grandparents. We don’t whip or spank our children. Really, I just can’t imagine doing so but have thought about it at times when I know that my elders would have spanked me for a similar offense. We will see how that works out for all of us as they get older.
People need to know that there are other more efficient ways to discipline their children. Studies proved that spanking kids can have a bad influence on their IQs, etc. In addition, the spanking and the whipping rarely come without psychological violence which can be detrimental to the kid (I am talking about his self-esteem, etc). I believe that there are more healthy ways to raise children. I think Eleanie that it is great that you named Dr. Poussaint in your article. This psychiatrist is an authority in the Black and mainstream communities. I strongly recommend people to read his books. It can give other tools to parents to raise and discipline their children.
Pasty thank you for your comment and your insight. It’s sad though that some people look upon parents that are against whippings as if that choice makes them bad parents.
I totally think that whipping and spanking are related to slavery. I am going to give a very concrete example. I know a family from the Black community since my childhood. The mother has two daughters. One is light and the other one has dark skin. The mother always spanked her dark skin daughter and never the other one. When she spanked her, the daughter was laughing, it was her way to defy her mother by showing her that what she’s doing to her doesn’t affect her. Well, guess what? Now these two daughters are in their thirties. The light one is more confident in herself, got married and is now a mother. The other one is celibate and in her late thirties. This is disgusting!!! I hope these type of discipline in the Black community will disappear forever. Our children are not animals like the masters thought about us during slavery time with our ancestors.