(ThyBlackMan.com) The primary reason that our society is falling apart is because we’ve devalued the most important profession in our society – motherhood. A stay-at-home mother and housewife is a sociologist, a psychologist, a medic, a financial planner, a teacher, an interior decorator, a chef, a chauffeur, an escort, and a lover, all balled up into one sweet bundle. Yet, society treats them like they’re of little or no value. As a result, women flooded into the job market, and society’s children have been deprived of the most important socialization experience of their lives. This, in turn, has led to crime, rampant drug abuse, the breakdown of our educational and political system, and the general disruption of our society, because the American family is the foundation upon which everything else in our society is built upon. Congress has clearly demonstrating that we can do without them in a pinch – they haven’t done a thing in over two years. But we cannot survive without the American family.
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Yet, during the fifties and sixties, we began to chip away at this important institution. Due to our chauvinistic attitude towards women, many mothers and housewives tore off their aprons and began to demand equality with men. They demanded that they too be afforded the opportunity to go into the more “prestigious professions” of medicine, law, science, and business, that, until that time, had been considered the all but exclusive bastion of men.
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That created a severe problem for the nation, because, in terms of their relative value to society, they were already MORE than equal to men, because these mothers and housewives were responsible for the very lifeblood of society – our future. These women were charged with a responsibility that was more important to our society than any doctor, any supreme court judge, or any CEO. Thus, our narrow-minded insistence on relegating motherhood to second-class status in our society is directly responsible for, literally, throwing our babies – and our future – out with the bath water.
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We’re currently paying a severe price for our bigoted attitude towards women – as we will eventually pay for all areas of institutional bigotry – because the most obvious solution to some of our most tenacious problems – our dysfunctional educational system, the breakdown of the family unit, and the proper socialization of our children – is for a large number of women to temporarily leave the job market and return to the home and reassume the essential function of nurturing and guiding society’s future – at least until their children reach an age where they are relatively self-sufficient. But that’s not going to be easy. In fact, I expect to be attacked by some for even suggesting it, because our society has made the word “housewife” – the most important profession in our country – a bad word. To many women it’s like asking Black people to go back into slavery for the best interest of the country.
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So in order to convince women to return to the home en masse, society is going to have to bestow upon motherhood the kind of stature, prestige, and compensation that’s commensurate with their value to society – and we owe them that, because the fact is, the business community has essentially been working women for free for the past fifty years now.
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Prior to women coming into the workforce in large numbers, a family of five could be supported on one income. But after women came into the workforce, the cost of living began to gradually rise until it consumed the woman’s entire income. So now whether or not a woman decides to enter the workforce is no longer a family option. The woman MUST work just to maintain a standard of living that could previously be sustained by her husband’s income alone.
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So while business has indeed accommodated a woman’s ability to enter the workforce, it’s the business community itself that derives all of the benefits, not the woman and her family. The business community benefits in many ways off the toil of working women. First, working women have enabled business to nearly double the cost of everything in our economy; secondly, business is obtaining what is essentially free labor from women; and finally, it’s using that free labor to either layoff or lower the wages of the working woman’s husband. And where is all of that extra money going? It’s going into the pockets of grossly overpaid CEOs and executives, even as our children suffer, and society is rendered dysfunctional by a destabilized family structure.
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So we’ve got to turn this trend around, both through social pressure, and legislation. First, mothers and housewives have to be made equal partners with their husbands. If a woman defers her career or education to raise the family’s children while the husband pursues a medical degree, that medical degree, and all of the income derived from it, should be considered community property, and half hers – for life. And the reverse should also be true for stay-at-home dads.
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In addition, the same principle should apply for employment. When a company hires an employee, it should be understood that they are hiring a partnership, so any and all compensation derived from that employment should be issued to both the husband, and the wife – and if one partner so chooses, the compensation should be divided between the two of them. That way, should the stay-at-home partner decide to further their education after the children become self-sufficient, they’ll have their own source of income to pursue that goal.
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In case of divorce, the partner who deferred his or her career to raise the children should continue to be compensated by the employer of the working partner until such time as the child-rearing parent has achieved financial parity with the working partner. If the child-rearing parent never achieves parity, the employer of the worker should pro rate the second partner’s compensation to make up the difference in income.
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And finally, in order to get corporations to cooperate with these policies, the people are going to have to place pressure on congress to pass a “Worker’s Bill of Rights.” And included in that legislation, there should be a provision that would require any company or corporation who wants to do business in the United States to pay it’s employees a living wage, provide affordable healthcare, and maintain a given level of employment based on the amount of profit that they generate within our borders. If they decide to thumb their noses at such legislation and take their business elsewhere, that’ll open up the market to domestic entrepreneurs.
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But in order for such policies to be put into place, the American people are going to have to come to the conclusion that they’re tired of being manipulated by multinational corporations that have a vested interest in lowering the standard of living of the American middle class to conform to that of third-world countries. We’re also going to have to stop allowing bought-and-paid-for politicians to keep us divided. In that regard, a good rule of thumb will be to always remember that the bigger a politician’s war chess, the less likely he or she is to be working in the interest of the people. If we remember that, money in politics will become a liability rather than an asset.
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What I’m suggesting may seem far-fetched at this point, but so did the New Deal at one point in our history. So even if it seems far-fetched now, as the corporatists continue to drag American workers under the bus, I guarantee you, it won’t be long before we see the light – and that light will reveal that saving our women and children is the key to our survival, not protecting multinational corporations that’s sending their money to Dubai.
Yes Motherhood: The Most Valuable Profession in Our Society.
Staff Writer; Eric L. Wattree
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well said @Natalie…it seems like the worst thing that happened to black people was college. It’s not the right type of education because people just talk in circles. That’s what learning so many useless theories do to you: paralyzes you to the point where no work can get done. Which is an effective way to get people not to take advantage of thee available resources out here, especially for those who are entrepreneurial minded. Black people want welfare but keep getting the wrong kind of welfare. They get social welfare instead of corporate welfare. They just don’t know how to play this game. But it’s on them. If they want the daughters and sisters and female cousins, aunts and moms to keep being used as porn material, it’s their destruction that will come. 2013 is about what you know, not about what you believe. But one thing my pops told me was “son, you can’t make anyone do what they don’t want to do. Even if it’s the right thing to do.” It doesn’t take much for a bloodline to be wiped out (take out the sons and the legacy will be gone forever). And at this rate, we will be talking about an extinct people called “black” that used to exist in America, but through their own hands, literally destroyed themselves. The way they carry themselves now, many of them anyways, that might not be a bad proposition. What other purpose do they deserve out here other than to destroy? This idol worshipping of females, especially in the black community, is a sickening phenomenon. It’s a difference between honoring woman, and worshipping her as an idol. When you worship woman as idol ,or anyone for that matter, they can do no wrong. This acts as a curse because it has stifled any ability to right wrongs and mature as a collective. I mean it’s 2013 and we are still having conversations about light-skinned and dark-skinned issues. That should have been dealt with in the 70s with the black is beautiful campaign. Well it’s been proven that was just a fad. There is a curse on the heads of black people. And it’s because, despite their precarious position politically, economically, spiritually, health-wise, and educationally, they refuse to change and accept any legitimate criticisms. When you point out their iniquities, they say “you’re being judgmental.” When you refuse to work with them out of frustration they call you a “sell-out.” If you agree with what some whites say about blacks (which is very immature to say legitimate criticism is racist) they call you a self-hating negro. When you focus on getting money, they say “money ain’t everything.” When you try to have a spiritual foundation, they say “that’s a slave religion.” If you go to Harvard, and talk with a intelligent diction, they say “you think you better than me nigga?” If you marry a white woman they say “you hate your mother (although they never say to a black woman when she marries a white man she is a self-hating person).” If you embrace other cultures because you’re getting no respect from your own people who claim they down for you they say “you’re turning your back on your people.” LOL!!!!! No matter what you do, it’s never good enough for these loser negroes with their worthless degrees they might as well burn. What type of infrastructure did black people build with their degrees? Where is it. Because I would love to see it? All these degrees, but no carpenters to build a school for them to teach in. Laughable. Even Malcolm saw the futility in this “black” con game. He was better off going to laws school, taking those millions from those Arabs in Mecca, and staying there. He should have never came back here to these scumbags. In 88 they made a song called “self-destruction” which highlighted the monkey behavior we see now as not only normal, but a valued existence!!! There is nothing outside of the intervention of God himself that will get these clowns in line but, by the way things look, it seems even God is fed up with black people and has taken his hands off of them. He is allowing them to destroy themselves through their own hand. I don’t want to be idolized only respected. However, in this alleged community, people are all too willing to idolize black women not because they really honor her, only her body they honor and I’m talking about the women too. I’ve heard gay black owmen say it’s wrong for a man to objectify a woman, but could tell you who has the best booty at magic City (a strip club in Atlanta). Huh? Barack termed it right: audacity of Hope. He had the audacity to hope these negroes could change? That was cute. It really was.
Shouldve read “women as victims, men as perpetrators”. Was difficult writing with any level of coherence on this smart phone..
@AnnYes, my comments were for Black men (real black men) and I was not telling them to not take care of their children, lol. I know you are attemping to twist my words around, which is fine because I expected that. I also expect you to use foul language and alot of CAPS because you must be heard. Looking at what you said and how you said some of it, it makes me wanna assume you are one of the women that makes poor choices BUT I will not go there because I really don’t know who you are. I say that to say you shouldn’t have a problem with what I said. If black MEN actually listen to what I said the only women that would be affected would be the good women because they would have better men to choose from because the men would be doing better with making better choices in women. The bad women life wouldn’t change because they would still have their thugs and players. Don’t get mad because I stand up. AND i’m not looking at TV to see nothing, I run my house not any form of media.
I just dont get you Eric. It all goes back to the fact that we direct accountability at men while extending them very little compassion, we communicate respect but show them no love..with women we direct limitless compassion while limiting the much needed message of accountability, that infantilizes us and while we communicate love for them, the la ck of accountability shows us no respect..we dont need men like eric defending the indefensible…they think it is showing us respect but puts us on footing tgat is equivalent to that of achild..i always have reservations about men that are so willing to feed the liberal feminist narrative of women as helpless victims and men as predators.. a community that despises its men run the risk of creating despicable men..
http://thecomingcrisis.blogspot.com/2012/06/tennessees-deadbeat-dads-three-men-who.html
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-fathered-30-kids-needs-break-child-support-140439765.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHiMKbCt3OM (Tommy Sotomayor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOJoG0mEsB4 (watch these two black girls go back and forth about sucking penis) but I’m an idiot? I wouldn’t raise any daughters to talk like this
No disrespect @Gj but I wasn’t negative at all. I addressed someone who completely disrespected me for no reason other than they didn’t like what I said and from that point on chose not to engage in any debate with him further. But even you recognized the article was written from a feminine perspective, although it was written by a male. Men are law enforcers.
Women are rule/law teachers. That’s why mothers are supposed to teach (stay at home with kids) so that they can bring them up properly with the rules of society, starting with home life first. However, when children get out of line and moms soft approach does not work, dads have to be brought in to correct the behavior. I don’t see what’s so hard about understanding that. I mean you can’t say “there needs to be more responsible men who can lead” but then when those men stand up, with no tolerance for excuses and demand the best from those that say they need to exist, and then say “you’re being too harsh.” Don’t ask for strong black men if you’re not gonna utilize their presence.
This is not directed specifically at you @Gj….I’m just speaking in general. If speaking truth is negative, then I don’t know what to tell you. In Chicago, pver a 3 day period, 36 people were shot, and out of these, 6 died. I mean is my delivery more of a problem than the black people out murdering each other for sport? Or worse than females having baby after baby, creating burdens for the rest of the society to have to deal with? It’s funny how people get more offended at what I say, than what’s taking place in their so-called “black communities.” I would love to see negroes out in the street be called “idiots” by these so-called stellar intellectuals. So if I am an idiot for the sake of argument, then what does that make them? last time I checked, I don’t have 22 kids and 17 baby mamas.
I would love for these same people who get angry for me speaking truth against this sorry behavior, come on here and display the same anger about 70/80 percent of black households having a unwedded mother or the glorification of criminal behavior by young black males throughout society. But that won’t happen. You know what happens instead: I get called names because my critique is not warm and fuzzy. I lost my mother in 2000 at 21, my close cousin (who was like my brother) in October of 2001, and four months later, lost my heart (my father).
Now I have not once, made an excuse for coming up short because of these losses. Now I could have went out there, and smoked all types of drugs to take away the pain. But instead, I was making Dean’s list in college, the same year I lost my father. So when I hear negroes, some who still have their parents, unable to get their shit together, you think I will let them get away with any excuse making, especially when they are adults? I’m merciful when I need to be. I had no control over the deaths of my relatives. Yet I strive.
Think I don’t miss my pops, especially on father’s day? Yet, these savages, who have control over the stupidity they inflict upon themselves, have the nerve to say they don’t know any better. Well if you don’t know any better, why do you hide the gun when the police come around? If you don’t know any better, why don’t females tell you all their sexual partners? Because they know there is a penalty, deep down biologically, for a woman to be regarded as let’s say 9damaged goods). Leviticus 21:7 instructs “Man, do not wife a whore.” So for all these Bible toting black women, who love that buttermilk complexion Jesus so much, and believe in the word, why can’t they adhere to the very standards I’m suggesting will help them not put themselves in situations they obviously can’t handle?
Dude insinuated that I want these women to keep their legs open, when I’m saying the complete opposite. I realize, because so many females can’t keep their legs closed, these dudes can’t stay focused. Remember, sex is very animalistic, even when it’s based in love. The instinct to replicate, is a natural phenomenon. How it’s being done is the problem. At this point, I don’t care if you only believe in that white Jesus. We all know these women have a secret desire to conform to the “white standard.”
But if you’re gonna really follow that white Jesus, then follow him. Because it seems to me, these women believe in Jesus, but follow negroes who are very willing to soil his royal oats with them. They follow men down the path of destruction all too willingly too many times. I don’t care if they be with white men. Just don’t be a whore for them. Since they ‘black queens.” Show and prove. Don’t wait til your vagina lips are stretched like the waistband on old drawls and then decide you’re ready to get married, and then when you can’t find a decent man (which should not be all that surprising) complain “there are no good black men around after you let white men slut you out like Olivia Pope on the tv show “Scandal.”
I see through the games and refuse to play it with these degenerates. Women don’t tell me I have to meet their standard because I’ve never let any woman dictate to me what a standard is because many of them don’t know it themselves. I know what my standard is and could care less if a chick feels I’m judging her too harshly. Black women judge each other way more harshly than men ever do. They show more hatred for each other, but it’s passed off as normal. What is normal about someone hating someone who is prettier than you?
That’s not normal: that’s biology kicking and your biological profile saying you can’t compete with that particular and resentment kicks in. There’s no solidarity with black women. Look at the reality tv shows. They show you that. But somehow, that will get blamed on black men too huh? LOL…….I have no problem if someone who disagreed with everything I completely say. Doesn’t affect my manhood at all. But if you freaking disrespect me, then all that intellectual crap goes out the window and I’m ready to take outside.
I can go nerd level or street level: however you want to go. And not because I’m a thug: but because I’m a man and deserve to be showed the same respect I show men on here or any other forum, even when I disagree with them. I worked to hard, to get to 34, to let some random hobo call me out my name, when the “cracker” they love to hate, has not once called me out my name since I’ve delivered criticism online, while this fool claims to be “my brother.”
Defending your integrity is not negative: it’s called pride. I work too hard everyday to make myself more aware, more conscious of what’s going on in the world, so I can navigate it best I can, so for some dude full of hot air to label me an “idiot” is beyond disrespectful. I was raised by a man, with flaws, but nevertheless, a man. So when you call me an idiot, you’re calling him one as well. Because, my pops didn’t raise no idiots. I can promise you that. That’s why I went in on the clown. Not because my feelings were hurt.
Don’t misconstrue my reply for hurt feelings. It was me defending my personal integrity against some charlatan who claims to be about helping but how is calling someone an idiot helpful to any situation? I didn’t make a false claim about the irresponsible black women out here did I? Did I tell a lie? I mean all I said was is we are gonna require for black men to be responsible all the time, no matter if he had a dad around or not, then we are gonna require black women be just as responsible, and not use that as an excuse to suck.
I think that’s “fair and balanced.” Now if the rules are gonna be different (even though I keep haring how much women want to be equal to men but when it comes to accountability for their actions they are more than happy to be on unequal footing) just let me know because there would be really no point for me to go on my diatribes because then I would truly know, these monkeys are hopeless.
I read this article a few days ago and was surprised at how negative the comments from rameses and Eric have become. We should try to work together and lay the politics aside.
I was hesitant to read rameses first comment because it was so long but I read it and it had some fair points. Eric’s article had some fair points too. Actually, I thought the article must have been written by a woman before seeing Eric’s name at the end of the article.
I think it would be a good idea for women to be in the home more. Though I think having men staying with the family is more important. Once men stay with the family and support it, we can start having more women stay at home.
Fathers in the home can fend off the males who try to get to his daughter before committing to marrying her. The daughter will try to wait to find a man like her father who she can marry. The father can lead the son to wait until marriage too.
The mother has to trust the father not to cheat on her and where she can depend on him enough to stay in the home. He will need to trust her to take care of him, the kids, and the home.
Happy Father’s Day!
@Reasonable mind appreciate your response…..and not because you agree with me but because you approached with civility, a clear sign of maturity. Now let’s look at the facts: every group out here except the African-America, black, colored, negro, nigga, Afro-American, or whatever the latest term they wanna call themselves places a high value on the marriage institution.
Why? Because, not only does it keep women pure, but it also regulates male behavior. See, this is not about stopping nature: it’s about allowing nature to manifest itself in the most responsible way possible. And quite naturally, because you have two parents around (balance) a child born from this structure is more likely (not always) to have better esteem, confidence, and a self-concept.
Case in point the Jewish community. Notice how you never see Jewish people in your everyday life? Why is this? Is it because they aren’t around? No. Very much so. Jewish people make it a point to be in everyone’s life, without appearing to do so by taking advantage (and control) of major industries, while at the same time, maintaining the essence of what makes them Jewish.
They live in America just like black people so to say that this can’t be accomplished is asinine. As a matter of fact, when the Moors (what we consider black) came to Europe, they brought Jewish bankers with them. When the Inquisition came, both groups suffered greatly. However, one made a strategic choice while one made a blunder. Jews, instead of antagonizing the State (America and other European nations it found itself in) it methodically worked within the confines of it and advanced its people’s cause.
While the negro chose to not realize he/she were not in a position to antagonize and chose to fight. Now many people say Booker T Washington was a sellout. But now, many people are having to re-visit past notions of Booker T and give him his just do because you know what he said basically to the negro:STFU. Keep your mouth shut, learn a trade because he knew the nation was going from an agrarian based economy to an industrial one, and that by learning a trade, you could make yourselves dispensable to the white man, get a job, make money, and build up your communities and then after establishing yourselves economically, then would you be able to address (lobby) government for certain things like every other major group does, including gays.
Even gays got more money than the negro. LOL…..But you know what black people’s problem is: they have to many scholars and preachers and not enough men of industry. or finance. Or science. Every negro can give you a problem but as soon as someone like myself says “hey mother of the earth, since you’re a queen, why don’t you show it by being more selective in the men you have children with and oh by the way don’t have them if you can’t afford them because many problems stem from this one behavioral choice” we get the captain save a hoe brigade with their whistle calling a foul. Now you know what’s the most ironic thing about this is: these irresponsible females take money from those women who actually go to work everyday and work hard.
See as a single black woman, because you’re not married, you get taxed at a higher rate. So even within the tax code, you are penalized for being single!!! But what do I know. And oh by the way, medicare and Medicaid, are social programs paid by the lower tax bracket taxpayers. Translation: the 99percent!!!! The wealthy don’t fund these programs because they are intelligent enough to protect their family’s wealth and assets from underachieving people, no matter what their color is. It is every man’s duty to protect his family’s interest and this is exactly what these people do and is what they should do.
Now fortunately, we live in a system, where one day you can be some geeky kid in college eating ramen noodles, and then become a billionaire (Mark Zuckerberg). Which means what: all you have to do is use your mind and you can actually make things appear out of thin air. magic. But the negro, because he went through slavery, a slavery he inflicted upon himself I might add, now wants to guilt trip the world into feeling sorry for him/herself.
Now if I don’t use slavery as an excuse, what is that telling you? I mean if anyone has to use slavery as an excuse, it’s the black man. But I do the complete opposite: I don’t even speak on it at all. Why? because personally, I never experienced it. And it would be a disgrace, to use that experience, as a justification for why black people suck collectively right now because on that same note, Mexicans use losing parts of this territory as an excuse for sucking as well and last time I checked, they don’t. If you want to stop media having a negative impact on your kids like tv, then turn it off.
Or better yet, turn to PBS. I haven’t watched BET since like 1998. Why? Because I have a life to live. See what many of these people don’t understand is, how can you build, if the people you’re trying to build with don’t share the same agenda? If I am saying be responsible, but a female wants to do the whole football team, I mean what can I do with that? LOL!!!! And I’m not trying to be funny either when I say this but, how is making Oprah Secretary of the Arts gonna help change anything? I don’t follow Oprah, nor do I care for her tv show. Oprah got up on her show and told black women years ago that they should be open to dating outside their race.
I was done with her then. Not because I’m against it. marry who you like. But when that’s the solution, without addressing your issues that make you the opposite of marriage material, I have a problem with that. Her solution was based off the premise that the reason they weren’t getting married was black men. When I was 17, I wanted to be married but couldn’t find any “sisters” to marry because they were too busy aspiring to be Lil Kim. We see how her life turned out. I mean you have black mothers (queens), right here in Atlanta, literally pimping their teenage daughters out to Caucasian males. But that’s the black man’s fault? LOL!!!!! I don’t operate with a slave singing a negro spiritual mind. I don’t sing the song ‘the white man keeps beating me down and I just can’t get up.”
What man with any sense of dignity and pride would sit there and act like a chump like that? I mean what the hell is a secretary of the arts gonna do for black people? I mean black people need someone on tv to tell them how to be upright? Is it really that bad? If black mothers are so capable of raising their children, what do they need Oprah for? This brawd not married and does not have kids.
And it’s funny, Oprah was straightened out when she began living with her father. When she stayed with her mother, she was on her way to baby mamaville. Is Oprah the mother of black people? She don’t even address black people like that when she had her show. Tyra banks covered more in depth issues concerning black people when she had her show than Oprah did. Corrective action is needed by the law enforcers (men). All this pat adults on the head like little children when they make a boo boo is sickening. It’s a shame when they say you’re putting people down when you tell them to stop doing stupid things.
Atlanta was ran by Shirley Franklin for 8 years. Crime running rampant. Atlanta Public Schools ran by Beverly I forget her name (black woman) and yet these fools had these children cheating on tests. But we talking about Oprah becoming a Secretary of the Arts? LOL!!!!! I have never seen so much stupidity in my life. My goal is to become a 1 percenter, and get the hell away from these 99ers. This is unbelievable. Slaves had more sense than this.
Rameses is right we must stop the self destructive behavior if we wish to survive. There is assistance for housing, food, energy, starting your own business, daycare, education………..infinity………
The more we ignore the writing on the wall the worst off our people become. At this stage we need prompt corrective action to restore healthy families in our communities not more programs. We are nowhere near where we need to be to capitalize on the opportunities that are all around us.
AnnYes,
That’s a good idea. I’m already prepared, because I already know where you’re going with this. I’ve had my eye on this situation for many years now. about four years ago I suggested that the president add a Secretary of the Arts to his cabinet and appoint someone who’s respected in the entertainment (like Oprah, for example)to try to change the messages that’s going out from the entertainment, television, and movie industries. That’s the only way that we’re going to curb the downward spiral of our society. We’ve got to make having knowledge and class cool again – and even more importantly, we’re going to have to put forward a huge effort to stamp out ignorance.
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I BEAR WITNESS
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I sit, I watch,
and I grow ever more obsolete
as I bear witness.
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I bear witness to a once vibrant people greedily gulping down society’s hemlock. Even as they claim to be “keeping it real,“ they continue to maim, kill, and despise their own in hot pursuit of the prime directive with the passion of a sheetless klan.
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I bear witness
to Black fists in the air in false solidarity promoted by self-serving poverty pimps as the world looks on and giggle at crooked fingers pointed elsewhere.
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I bear witness
to the superficial attempt to ban the “N-word” while the new “un-niggas” stand around watching children killing children and fathers drugging sons, as they celebrate, lionize, and enrich those who denigrate the very womb of their culture with impunity.
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I bear witness
to a generation of lost knowledge, cut off from its roots by Ronnie’s “Just say no” generation of crack, greed, death, and political corruption; A generation where the new N-word is pronounced “Responsibility” and the keepers of the flame completely ignore the destructive power of bitch, slut, whore, and tramp.
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I bear witness
to the reckless disregard of the words uneducated, irresponsible, and classless. Should we not ban these words as well, or should we ban banning words altogether as we celebrate their meaning?
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Yes, I do bear witness.
I bear witness to a new world –
a world where gross ignorance comes disguised as enlightenment, and funky sneakers look down with disdain upon the sweet smell of Florsheim; a world where saggin’ pants and gaudy glitter enable country bumpkins to masquerade as elegant, and the exquisite surrender of eloquence is the very essence of what it means to be hip.
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Where’s Langston? Where’s Baldwin? Where’s Oscar Brown, Jr?
We need you stormin’ this beach, because . . .
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I now bear witness
to a world where motherhood stands alone, to be “dope” renders a smile, and posterity is forced to embrace the wind for paternal sustenance; A world where the walking dead strut about rapping the wisdom of idiocy, and we praise the illiteracy of vulgar nursery rhymes as profound; a world where the mother of salvation’s final gasp is compared to the pigmentation of brown paper bags.
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Malcolm, Martin, where are you?
I once stood with a crowd.
Now seemingly alone,
I’m forced to bear witness –
horrific witness . . .
to the imminent demise of our people,
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And my heart bleeds.
Yes, Deeann,
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That’s also an option. The entire community needs to get behind our mothers and support them in every way that we can, because as the axiom says, it takes a village to raise a child. Women can also be pursuing their educations online, and our churches should be used during the week to hire unemployed mothers to provide low-cost childcare centers and pre-schools for the children of working mothers. The churches can also hire educators to come in provide accredited college courses in these centers.
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The bottom line is, the community needs to come together and do everything we can do to support the stability of our families, because that’s the key to the stability of our culture.
I found this article very interesting; I had to read it a couple of times to make sure I understand your premise. Just wanted to offer an additional thought for discussion: might the same goal be accomplished (while corporations and society get themselves together to do the right thing) by the community encouraging and supporting mothers in starting home-based businesses? I say that because so many women in my family stayed home but had side hustles that supplemented the men’s income nicely. With the Internet, and with the ability to learn the realities of business available widely, it seems that there is a great area of opportunity here.
The problem is easily fixed in our community and could possibly be fixed within one or two generations with simple attention.
We are going to take this in two steps. Next week post to my page a reminder for me to tell you how we fix this problem.
Okay this week’s assignment. FELLAS…for the next 7 days be aware of how Black women are portrayed on television: shows, commercials. I mean everything and every where. Be attentive to skin tone, dialogue, speech patterns, and settings. If you have time, make time; check out Nick and Disney shows and look for little Black girls. Check out little Black girls everywhere on television magazines; actively look for them. Seek them out.
Meet me back here and report what you’ve learned.
Remove the filter(wishuwould247) forget blame. This is not about blame this is about accruing knowledge and subtleties.
wishuwould247 says: ” We as black men need to quit turning a blind eye to poor choices by alot of black women. We need to hold a mirror up in their face when they attempt to blame us for their poor choices”
You are simply misguided. You are so unaware of the bashing you just gave Black women you misogynistic pig. Who in the hell do you think you are that you MEN have to help us overcome OUR bad decision making process; fully excusing men from the responsibility of child creation?
WHO. IN. TH. THE. HELL. DO. YOU. THINK. YOU. ARE. AND. WHAT. GOD. PLANET. HAVE. YOU. COME. FORTH. FROM?
The only poor choice a Black woman would make is the one where she chose you.
BUY A FUCKING CLUE.
Well, Rameses,
I guess my job is done. You’ve revealed yourself. The only thing left now is to sit back and see how many of your allies co-sign your comment. But I do want to thank you. I’ve saved your comments to a file, and I intend to make you a star. Every time I write about the mentality of Black conservatives I’m going to drag them out. Now, as my final comment to you, I strongly suggest that you stay away from knives, because with your powerful intellect, you’ll surely cut your own throat.
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Piece, good “brother.”
(What an idiot)
This is how I know the negro doesn’t hate whitey like he claims: because he couldn’t take me in power. If I was in power, I would never let these genetic anomalies (monkey negroes) get away with this nonsense they get away with. If I was in charge, I’d send tanks down the streets of Chicago and show these “soldiers” what a war really is. Since they like to shoot people with no regard for human life, I’d send special forces in their and give them the war they love so much. And I wouldn’t stop until I laid to rest every last one of these monkeys and then for desert, I’d finish with the sorry mothers who gave birth to them. If my mama was a hoe, she wouldn’t get a free pass either. And barack is doing what he should be doing for you worthless niggas: absolutely nothing. And I’d have Rudy Giuliani run the entire operation. Oh yes there is a clear divide and I do believe in a class system in which niggas with the mentality of so-called “scholars” serve me like slaves. I would be on you niggas ass so hard that you would beg the white man to bring back slavery. So you right. Have disdain. Because my kind loathes your kind and be very clear moving forward: we don’t have the same agenda. I support nature and nature dictates the weakest ones don’t survive so I’ll sit back and let nature run its course. It’s quite clear we won’t have to worry about these underachieving monkeys for too much longer. A monkey is not my people, although it seems we live on the planet of the apes. Nigga so freaking dumb, he thinks we put all black women in the same category. Condoleeza Rice is not the same as Shamika with 5 baby daddies. Mae Jemison is not the same as the next hoodrat with 6 baby daddies and no they get no mercy. I lived in projects before. I know what it’s like to be hungry. But do you see me making excuses? Hell no. So no. I ain’t trying to hear that BS you talking. While you make excuses for these hoes, maybe I’ll hire these same hoes to work in my strip club and let’s see what man they follow: me or you. I guarantee it won’t be you. In the words of Triple Six Mafia “Don’t save her she don’t wanna be saved.” lol give this nigga a tampon it’s his time of the month
This is one of the most enlightening discussions that I have ever been involved in, and I intend to use excerpts from it extensively in the future. It clearly shows why 90% of all Black people hate Black conservatives, and why such people are toxic to the Black community.
How can Black conservatives have any self-respect when they look upon Black women, the very womb of the Black culture, as irresponsible bitches and whose? If you consider your own mother part of a culture of bitches and whores, what does that make you?
I have always looked down upon Black conservatives with distain, but up until now my attitude has always been generalized and unfocused. I simply saw them as brainwashed fools. But this discussion has brought clarity to my attitude. You’re not only self-hating bigots towards your own people, but you’re idiots as well. For the very first time I understand how Black conservatives can support a Black-hating conservative agenda. The vast majority of you are charter members of your own version of the KKK- the Klueless Klux Klan.
@observer you are so right brother…..I mean this shit feels like being in twilight zone. Dude says I’m wrong and that white women are on welfare more than black women. Ok fair enough. Technical arguments can be very misleading however. Population of white women is significantly higher than black women which relates to the higher percentages of white women on welfare. So let’s squash that. Secondly, he tries to have it both ways. In one instance, he says it’s not black women’s fault for having babies out-of-wedlock because all they were looking for was love from some black man who lied to them. But then, he compared their behavior to white women. So which one is it? Is there behavior deplorable (in comparison to white women), or are they victims? It can’t be both. You can’t be right or wrong at the same time. It’s wrong when the white women are more on welfare for irresponsible behavior, but it’s victimhood when it’s black women. I would like to see a study done on the white women who are on welfare who were married first, before they got on welfare. I bet it’s way more than black women. Single doesn’t mean you were never married. So this statement “white women are on welfare more than black women” is disingenuous to say the least. I agree with you on how these negro democrats are in control of some of the most underperforming cities in the US with some of the highest crime rates you would ever see. But what I can’t figure out is, why don’t these negroes ever measure themselves up against Asians, Hispanics, or Indians. In college this black chick said “my black and white friends are really loose. They would suck any man’s penis they meet. But my Indian and Muslim friends are the complete opposite. In their community, virginity is currency. If I was a black dude, I don’t blame them for going overseas for getting wives.” This was like 2008 and the chick was like 22 at the time. These people don’t realize how much people in other communities speak honestly about black women and their behaviors. This Somalian woman told my homie years ago “when I first came to America, I thought the men were the problem. But after being around these black women, I realize it’s them. They are horrible. I feel sorry for you dudes.” I agree wholeheartedly with u @wishuwould……How can you be a queen when you keep getting pregnant with dudes who are peasants? That does not compute. Now I see why organizations like Boy Scouts exist because no matter if your father’s not around, you need some men to be around, doing manly things so you don’t grow up bashing your own gender. This dude acts like he hates being a man!!!! This dude has vagina envy!!!!!lol many men sleep with these kind of women because they are not confident they can get better. I mean what man wouldn’t want to be his wife’s first and only man to enter her? Who wants to marry a woman who has had double digit sex partners? I’ve heard dudes even say that’s not right for you to judge these women that harshly!!! I’m like dude, if you saw your potential wife on a sex tape like Kim Kardashian, you’re gonna marry her? Some dudes, as we have seen will do just that….@marcus this is my fundamental problem: I get sick and tired of negroes laying the blame at the feet of white folks when there are white folks who are getting their asses handed to them by Asians and other groups. During the recession of 2008, you had working white men resorting to bank robbery to feed their families. So clearly, they weren’t as protected as many of you would like to think. What you think is white supremacy is just a notion. Ben Carson disproved it and many others have as well like Mae Jemison and Neil DeGrasse Tyson. So what’s facing many blacks is something that is very simple: a lack of ambition and imagination. These two things are vital components in the formation of an accomplished individual. Sometimes black people mistake asshole white people for racists. Sometimes it’s not race at all: it’s just that particular person is an asshole and just happens to be white. Who killed Malcolm? Negroes. Who stabbed Martin Luther King in the chest? Black woman. What was one of the major reasons why Malcolm was killed? His outing of Elijah Muhammad screwing many of those black women in the Nation. See how irresponsible behavior led to one of our giants being killed? Now a choice has to be made in 2013 because blaming whitey has ran its course. And to be quite honest, if whitey is still controlling your thought patterns in 2013, then you deserve to be destroyed. Who is on your team? Are all black people on your team? If they are good luck because they damn sure aren’t on my side. I am not trying to save every black person from their own iniquity. And I’d be the first one to say I don’t defend hoes. The women I’m telling to close their legs are the ones who still have a chance. You got double digit sex partners as a woman you’re literally too “screwed” up to be any man’s mate. My homegirl from highschool said on facebook some years ago “I try to tell my friends that you need to keep your sex partners limited to one hand.” And she was like 24 and married at the time. How can she at 24 understand this concept, but a woman at 35 does not? It ain’t whitey that’s the problem. It’s the negro. It’s the women who have “Scandal” parties to watch this show, that shows a black woman willing to slut her life away (the color of the man she does it with is not my issue although it does show how these black women are all too willing to celebrate it when it’s a white man doing it to them but when it’s a black man doing it he’s the scum of the earth but that’s another story for another day) for a man that’s not within her ability to claim. And as you watch these comments on twitter when this show is taking place like “I wish I was Olivia Pope” you begin to see that the women are the problem because as the first transmitter of culture, you see where a lot of this self-hate comes from in the black community: the black woman’s psyche. When Maya Angelou or Toni Morrisson coined the term “the first black president” in reference to Bill Clinton, this was considered funny. But as you break it down what is it really saying? That when a white man cheats on his woman, leaves his sperm on another woman’s dress, and completely embarrasses himself and his family, that if he’s white not only is it excusable, but he won’t be fully blamed because his behavior will be passed off as a “negro tendency.” And she will sit there and laugh when he does it. But she will crucify a black man when he does it. Which proves that this so-called woman has no problem with being exploited sexually: as long as it’s done by a white man. Then it’s called love. And all those negro preachers during that time came out in droves in support of Bill Clinton, when he went through that impeachment process. The only reason black people voted for Barack was because he was half-white and white folks voted first. Because as we can clearly see from this porch monkey masquerading as a thinker, they are constantly measuring themselves up against “whitey”, who they claim they hate. Now if black females were really loyal, (and I’m not against interracial dating because racism is primitive) but based off the fact that their community they love has so much, an because of slavery and the degradation that the women experienced during this time, the last person they should be thinking about marrying are white men. Sites are full on the internet of black women writing books about how to get a white man and have a terms for getting with white men (swirlers). LOL. So all this rhetoric that black women love black men and all that is just that: rhetoric. The only time black women show any hate for white people is when a black man gets with a white woman: then it’s “they’re taking our men away.” In one of these books, black chick said in order to get a white man “you have to not wear weave, be open to the outdoors, cook for him, and don’t give him attitude. the very things that black men (not thugs) ask for but don’t get, this black chick actually wrote it down in a book for guidance. Love is love and you can’t help who you love. But don’t say when a black man goes outside the “black” group he’s a traitor. But when a black woman goes outside the group she found happiness and that black men don’t have their stuff together. Because from what I see, there are plenty of black women you can say that about. There is this notion in the black community that no matter what black men will want black women. Those days are over. Not because black men don’t desire them (although even the desire is waning). But because information is moving at such a rapid pace, and ideas are being processed at such a high rate, people’s ideas of race are changing. Many brothers have gone overseas and have found the peace they were looking for. So these 1960 arguments negroes are still making are becoming pointless. At the end of the day, if you can’t be with someone who looks like you (which is not racist but a natural phenomenon based out of comfort) you adapt and seek other arrangements. I remember when I saw this Indian woman at Piedmont Park in 2008. Her youngest boy was obviously with a black dude as well as her newborn. So I asked her, knowing how racist some Indians can be in terms of their children dating outside the group, how did her family feel about it. She said “well they didn’t like it. And I love my family. But I love my new family more.” I was proud of her for seeing past that hatred and doing what was best for her. It’s about values. Always has been and always will be. And from the popularity of tv shows like “Scandal”, we can clearly see that the values of many of these black women are substandard. That’s truth: not bashing. So if you’re a man, who wants a family, and a legacy, you have a critical choice to make if you’re between 25-55. Do you pick race or your own well-being. I am not allowing my own-well being become subordinate to race. A race that shows how much it hates itself by measuring itself against that which it says is bad and evil all the time. If whites are so evil then why do you keep measuring yourself against that which is so evil, since you’re inherently good? Chinese men will be facing this dilemma in China in regards to the one child policy. Because they have valued boys for so long, now there will exist a huge gap in the males and females population wise which means there are gonna be many Chinese men who will have to go outside their race to procreate. A white woman said to me in the library one day that if she couldn’t find a husband here, she would just go to China and get one from there for this very reason….wake up people: race is dead
That first sentence should be to logical critique the behaviors of Black women.
Ramses and Eric, I actually agree with both of you on this one. But Ramses, I think one of the challenges of your position is not that it is technically incorrect, particularly when you make the argument that so many folks bash Black men but fail to logically critique the behavior of Black men, but that in reality it is a system against Blacks.
For example you can start on either side of the coin. I can say, women should close their legs. On the other side I can say, Black men don’t have sex with a women if you won’t commit and raise the child.
Two sides same coin. The reality is they are two sides of systemic oppression, which in my mind creates a mutually accountability and a mutual excuse for both the Black man and woman.
I would further argue that when we attempt to “lay blame” at the feet of either group we are furthering the work of White supremacy.
I normally light Eric’s behind up on his relentless liberal democratic jocking, but the reason I gave him props on this article is because he is in effect making a restorative argument, which is very rare for him, but the kind of argument we need to be making.
The restorative argument isn’t starting with the “you need to do this because you are causing problems” but a, “We need to do this to rebuild and defend”. There is a huge distinction.
So yes, I don’t think it is misogynistic at all to suggest that if women stop having babies without a husband in the home it will improve our condition. Because technically it is very, very true. The same way I could say men stop producing babies and running out like a mark on your child. But that fellas is a symptom. We need to start at the root.
The root is restoring positive family restructures by enhancing the value of the family unit AS ONE UNIT and build around that a defense mechanism against the pervasiveness of historical oppression.
I agree with both you cats to a point.
Phenomenal article Eric. Best one I have seen you write yet. I absolutely agree.
The truth hurts some of us BUT is the only thing that will save us. We as black men need to quit turning a blind eye to poor choices by alot of black women. We need to hold a mirror up in their face when they attempt to blame us for their poor choices. We also need to aspire to be with women that don’t make poor choices. That will be hard for alot of black men because its so easy to sleep with most black women but it will be a greater reward in the end. Again, i’m speaking to black MEN. Not thugs or players. Once most of us leave that drama behind and start living regular lives (being the man of the house without question) then we can truly live as God intended. The war is over and we lost! Time to rebuild and not make the same mistakes twice. She is lost, gone. Look around you, the good ones are few and far in between. Again, the truth hurts but its the light, better follow it.
Thanks Rameses and observer for being Real
Rameses these type people unfortunately have our communities in disarray as they supposedly hate whitey but are always co-signing the white man’s standard as the recipe for success when everyone knows there are many avenues one can take to reach the pinnacle point just as it is basic knowledge that liberals bombard our communities with destructive behavior for our children to emulate while they practice conservative values when rearing their own children. Then they run to the air waive pointing their fingers at republicans even though democrats got these cities on lock and pass laws in congress that make sure they continue their rule while they live in their gated communities, send their children to private schools and blame whitey for the mess they continue to manufacture.
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You’re basing your entire thesis on the racist profiling of Black women, and then trying to lay all of society’s problems at their feet. When the fact is, you’re actually discussing a tiny minority of the Black community and then broad-brushing the entire community of Black women as the source of society’s problems. The fact is, a minority of EVERY community is dysfunctional. So why are you singling out Black women? Let me tell you why – because you don’t seem to have the insight to recognize that the media only focuses on the dysfunctional in the Black community, and completely ignores the vast majority of Black people who are comfortably middle class and functions as responsibly as everyone else in society. My own family is a perfect example of that: http://wattree.blogspot.com/2011/01/fathers-pride.html
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FACTS THE GOP DOESN’T WANT YOU TO KNOW
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The vast majority of Black people in this country are middle class or above. African Americans are the second largest consumer group in America with a combined buying power of over $892 billion currently and likely over $1.1 trillion by 2012. In 2002 African American owned businesses accounted for 1.2 million of the US’s 23 million businesses, and 47% of Africans Americans own their own homes. – U.S. Census Bureau.
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On the other hand, many White people are given all of the advantages in this society, yet, are just as dysfunctional as the very worst in the Black community, but they are given a pass. Let me give you an example of that:
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“The article looks at some relatively insignificant and also some very disturbing matters in Issa’s past. For example, the Union-Tribune had reported that Issa had swept a stadium for bombs when President Nixon attended a 1971 World Series game. It turned out that Nixon had not gone to the game. Issa’s bio had greatly exaggerated an award he had received from Inc. Magazine. But it’s the big things that are disquieting. He had been indicted for stealing a car, arrested for carrying a concealed weapon, and accused by former associates of burning down a building. On one occasion, Issa and his brother were indicted for grand theft: an investigator suspected they “had conspired to fraudulently sell Darrell’s car and then collect the insurance money,” according to Lizza. The prosecutor dropped the case. Issa was suspected of burning down the building of a company he controlled. But there were never charges filed. He sued the insurance company that was quite suspicious and got a $20,000 settlement. There were three accusations of auto theft against Issa, who told Lizza that they were false. “Issa’s defense in most cases can be summarized in four words, ‘My brother did it,'” writes Lizza. However, Issa admitted he had tried to cover up for his brother.
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“In doing his reporting, Lizza had questions about where Issa got the money that he used as capital. He said he had sold personal automotive vehicles and also borrowed $50,000 from family members. Issa wrapped up his interview with Lizza saying, “Everyone has a past.”
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/financial-crime-politics/2011/jan/17/new-yorker-magazine-scorches-darrell-issa/
Peace@observer…..dude said I was misogynistic because I said black women need to stop having babies they can’t afford. Really? LOL….you know these negroes always talk about how black men need to start leading their communities. But when we offer sensible solutions (like heifer close your legs) we’re attacking black women. Huh? If all I wanted from black women was vagina, wouldn’t I be saying “black women keep your legs open?
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So that just shows you how psychotic these people are. As a man, I am actually saying “women, stop making yourselves easy.” And this intellectual faggot still has a problem. See, as long as black men take part in bashing black men, it’s all good. But as soon as you give legitimate criticisms against behavior (not just saying things against black women) of black women, it’s a controversy. Whenever I see a dude telling another dude he’s misogynistic, I know automatically physically he might look male, but chemically and emotionally he’s a woman. These niggas went to college and learned terms like “misogyny” that wasn’t even used by our grandparents and great grandparents. See I grew up around my great grandparents and so I know what a family standard is.
Hell many of these people never knew their fathers let alone their great grandfathers. Which means I was taught “Old Wisdom.” What can a woman really teach a man except either what type of woman to be with or not to be with? I guess I’m misogynistic because my wife will be a stay-at-home wife? I guess it’s outdated to want your wife to raise your children? It’s better to have your kids around heathen minded kids who learn how to twerk at 2 years old. Where is his criticism of black women on youtube on videos teaching their one year old daughters, barely walking, how to twerk their asses? But I got the problem?
This dude actually said ” If the Black culture would have had to depend on Black men for their survival we would have disappeared off the face of the Earth many years ago.” This is the most asinine statement I’ve ever read. From Garvey, to Malcolm, Booker T, etc. these men constitute a legacy of strong men who literally gave their lives to better black people, not just black men. Does he think the reason why black people are here is because of Harriet Tubman? Yes she did her thing but it’s not even close to those men who were always under the threat of losing their lives. This dude literally just spit on the legacies of these men and countless others.
Then, in usual nigga fashion, he brings up there are more white women on welfare than black women. But hold up, so now you’re gauging your standards on white people now? I mean either white people are sub-standard or they are the standard? Which one is it? The negro is a liberal junkie who keeps going to the trough for his political, moral, spiritual agenda. My nonprofit is focused on etiquette training which addresses personal behavior as it relates to the social context. I mean I read where this dude says he loves to write on here which really means he’s in love with seeing himself talk.
Must be related to Michael Eric Dyson. This coon/monkey really thinks he’s the arbiter of what’s intelligent, when it comes from my mouth. I completely disagree with his political philosophy, yet I never accused him of being unintelligent. Now I really understand what my grandfather said when he said “I fear that my family will be infiltrated by the enemy.” My granddad said this during the 50s and 60s. He wasn’t talking about white people: he was referring to substandard blacks. The same blacks who said my family was “uppity” because they had a head (my grandfather) who determined the direction of his wife and children.
The same man who refused to let his wife work for white men because he said he would kill them if any of them approached my granny sexually. My granddad built houses for his wife, but this dude had the audacity black women can’t depend on black men for survival? Just because they can’t depend on his weak, homogenized ass because he has no plan for wealth creation. His economic model is getting the government to hand over resources to sorry females who have babies by dudes who have double digit baby mamas.
I was reading the info on HPV yesterday and saw on Bloomberg news that 75% new cases of oral and throat cancer are coming from oral sex. People are developing throat and mouth cancer through sexual contact. This is some scary shit and this nigga is telling me that I’m wrong for saying women close your legs. Damn I thought I was helping by saying these women need to be more cognizant of how they use their bodies but because he doesn’t like the way I say it (bitch nigga got his panties tight) he wants to attack. My business will be dealing with all these issues while this monkey sits here twiddling his thumbs. And I find it laughable that these liberal negroes have allowed themselves to be convinced that wealth does not matter.
This “meek shall inherit the earth” motif is stupidity at its finest. If you wanna be a slave for the rest of your life cool. But, any sensible man/woman wants to alleviate the struggles of their family economically. This dude thinks because he attacks wealthy people for having wealth, it will make them all of a sudden and give it away. In no religion have I seen a broke God. Even the story of the Buddha starts out with the Buddha coming from wealth. So this notion that wealth is bad and people who have it is bad is some twisted psychology to say the least because whenever you have a job, it’s because someone worked their ass off to come up with a business plan to get funding to create a product to market and sell. And based off this, you get your job.
So if you have so many issues with job creators, then why take a job from the very people you claim are so evil? I call that hypocrisy. All this talk of black people coming together is a farce. That time has passed. We can’t even agree that sagging pants is wrong for these boys. Some so-called ‘mothers” be the main ones saying “leave my baby alone. he can wear what he wants.” LOL….@observer, I was much more liberal during college because I let some of that stupid college stuff seep in. But thank God I got out of that.
Every group of people in America knows that you have to organize around a platform, contribute resources to political candidates who support that platform, to get policies implemented that support their agenda, even gays. But not black people. Noooooo. Negroes like this clown call me idiots for saying to black women close your legs because you’re the biggest culprit to this out-of-wedlock plague, but complain we have become hedonistic. Well who is he referring to? The dude with 22 kids exposes these black women for what they have become: race destroyers.
These chicks will have a child, with no intention of being with the father, just because they want to get welfare. So they clearly don’t value fathers being around in these kids lives because chances are, their mothers were the same way. I knew a chick years ago, the product of her single mom and married dad, who told me she was gonna raise her daughter to never depend on a man, even though the father was trying to be with her and have a family. Many of these black women don’t want men around because they like to tell people that they do it on their own. Yet, turn around and criticize men for not being around.
Claim they hate the white man, but use the white man’s law to keep black men from being fathers to the very kids they claim they abandon!!!! matter fact, the black men who I’ve seen go through the most shit with these women are the ones who try to be fathers to their kids!!!! this dude is better off putting on a dress and standing on a corner than masquerading like he’s a man
Rameses there is no reason, accountability or personal responsibility to the liberal thought process that hinges on victimhood. Rameses you take a position which is a proven fact that just by reducing our family make up from 75 percent of our children being born to single black women we could solve most of the problems in the community from drug abuse to incarceration. However these so called scholars continue to focus on the symptoms of the problems such as more black men being represented in the penal justice system, banning the use of the n-word, hating on thriving nonblack businesses…….Ramses you are 100 percent correct when you say sisters need to get themselves in check because once they do our communities will rid themselves of all the social norms that have plaqued our communities since liberals started running the inner cities.
Rameses, you said:
“LOL@ Eric…you know it’s funny….when I say something you agree with, you have no problem with what I say. Note your previous comments on this same link and other articles you have written. But when I say something you don’t agree with (note how I didn’t call you any names when I disagreed) you make it personal.”
Man, I don’t have a problem with you, or anyone, disagreeing with me, as long as they do it in an intelligent manner. But I have a very low threshold for bullshit, and absolutely no patience for stupidity. And that’s what you were spewing – absolute, unadulterated, stupidity.
I assumed you had a mind until you posted that misogynistic bullshit below – and then you followed it up in your last post with racist bullshit – and it’s no telling what you wrote in that mile-long paragraph below your last post. I didn’t even bother to read that one, because I no longer have enough respect for you to either tax my eyeballs, or care what you have to say. So I don’t intend to read another syllable that you write. Life is too short to waste my time with idiots. In fact, I wish this was Facebook so I could block you. So man, please, don’t bother me anymore. I want to forget you’re walking the Earth.
And there is a sister on here who goes by Nojma Muhammad, who expresses similar sentiments as I (like ladies keep your legs closed) but I don’t see you calling her an idiot. Oh but I get it: black men are the only men who fear women, but not men. A man can bust your ass but you fear women? LOL….this is why I have like two black male friends. A race of men raised solely by women is incapable of leading anyone. I will never follow any cause you niggers come up with….spineless group of niggers…..you had men starting banks during segregation, yet you talk on here how like groveling dogs. The govt needs to come up with programs you say. Damn when are you niggas gonna come up with your own program[s]? 450 social welfare programs and you still can’t get it together. losers
LOL@Eric…you know it’s funny….when I say something you agree with, you have no problem with what I say. Note your previous comments on this same link and other articles you have written. But when I say something you don’t agree with (note how I didn’t call you any names when I disagreed) you make it personal. This is a common theme with you negroes. Anytime someone says anything about your beloved “black queen” that doesn’t support the notion that she’s a queen, you get all up in arms. You say your mom had you “accidentally”? Dude I can’t believe you actually wrote that. An accident? Come on there’s nothing to even debate with that statement. Any rational person (adult) knows that people don’t accidentally get pregnant. It takes two consenting partners. I don’t care if you work a corporate job, or on welfare (free public housing and food stamps) having a child out of wedlock is very irresponsible for a woman because she has much more to lose than the man. You get more being married than you get from child support so why have this as an economic model? So I’m assuming that every black female is a victim who is an unwedded mother (single moms gives the impression that a woman gets no support when many are subsidized by govt. which is taxpayers) since I am bigoted, chauvinistic, and delusional? Because I express a thought opposite of yours huh? Dude you are a joke. A buffoon. A courtjester. A master of verbal gymnastics. But really blowing a lot of hot air. You can’t show me one religion, not one, that does not require a woman, if she wants more respect socially, she must carry herself a certain way (from Christianity, to Islam, to Hinduism, to even Egyptian religion). You have two aspects of religion: the supernatural aspects and the social aspects that teach you how to conduct yourself. Whether you believe in the supernatural aspects of any religion, I could care less. But the social aspects of religion are pretty similar across the board. As a matter of fact, my nonprofit is focused on teaching women (and men) how to conduct themselves socially because as we can clearly see, this is a lost art brother (and I do mean the brother part sarcastically). I conduct major research into what is one of the fundamental flaws in terms of cultural values being in decline and the common theme is women. Women have begun to value the more debased forms of society instead of the more sensible approaches they use to adhere to. Yes women are free to make their own decisions, but are they making wise ones? Clearly not. Negro I want affection just like the next human but you don’t see me trying to lay up with strippers! So the statement All many of these women are guilty of is wanting affection so badly that they were imprudent enough to trust a selfish and a low-life dog” is really disingenuous because you act like wanting affection is an excuse for being responsible. It’s not. But I find it ironic that you say my thinking is outdated, but when I hold women accountable like men are (since we’re all equal now whatever the hell that means) you sound like a woman who says “you’re not being fair.” Hold up so let me get this straight: I hold women to the same standards that men are held too (which is be responsible, yet I’m a pig? Keeping your legs closed, if you want to be considered a respectable woman, will never be outdated brother. You can find women in their 30s and 40s in many parts of the world who are still virgins my “brother.” Because virginity is, and always will be, currency in the world because it’s based off of science. Now since 2012, I’ve only had sex with one woman dude. So I’m not invested in sleeping with multiple women (although I have the looks to do so). But I use my time to build my nonprofit business and my other projects. So negro don’t assume, just because I said I don’t blame the dude, I’m some thirsty nigga who can’t keep it in his pants. No one on here, no matter how much they don’t like what I say or how it’s said, can ever accuse me of advocating running through females like Wilt Chamberlain. By me saying to women to stop being baby mamas, what am I indirectly saying? Stop sleeping with these dudes!!!! LOL….just because you don’t like the way I say it, you can’t see I’m saying similar shit to yo dumb ass nigga!!!! But I forgot, when a man is raised in the image of his mother, he tends to be more like Oedipus Rex. I’m bitter because I say black women stop being baby mamas? What fucking world do you live in to say that men have to lie to women to sleep with them? Nigga I was in Atlanta for freaknik from 94-97. Niggas did not have to lie to get vagina trust me. And if there was ever a time to lose respect for black women, that was the time. My friend his respect for black women was lowered during freaknik because it was so easy to get vagina, that you say men have to lie to get, he became disguste by black women then. But you the same dude who talks about black women allowing themselves to get ran through by preachers in church. Dude what’s the difference? Oh I forgot, they are not responsible for their actions because as adults they are not responsible. LOL. So women who come to church, with short mini-skirts and no drawls on, and sit in the front row so the pastor can see their pubic hairs, are not responsible for their behavior because that white Jesus compelled them to di it right? lol. Nigga don’t try to psychoanalyze me because you’re not qualified to match wits with me with your peasant mentality. you’re not even fit enough to be my slave. I grew up in a house surrounded by intelligent, responsible, God-following women and in my statement, I clearly stated that the responsible black women, who carry themselves with a civilized mentality, get my respect. I clearly said that. So for your bitch ass to say “I’m bitter” like I’m some bitch nigga like you is appalling to say the least. And in terms of using rubbers negro, those aren’t so safe either. Check the science on it. I didn’t say dudes should be surprised when they get a female pregnant without any protection. I said, there are women who get pregnant on purpose to trap men (which is immoral just like you said men who lie to women are immoral) but you don’t view it like that. Just because your mother was an unwed mother, doesn’t make her a saint dude. Just because I loved my parents doesn’t mean I was unwilling to criticize them. Your mother is far from perfect. You probably one of those 40 year old niggas who say “I’m still scared of my mama.” lol. Now since I am an idiot, bitch nigga, don’t comment on anything else I say on here henceforth. Because clearly, you lack emotional control to have a philosophical debate. Your debates are emotional. And I’ll be the first to say I have no intentions on footing the bill for no one’s illegitimate babies, no matter what color they are. Especially those from a group of women who live on welfare instead of use welfare to get themselves to a respectable position. Now, unwedded mothers like that can earn my respect over time. The ones who not only stay on it, but keep having babies to keep the benefits coming get what they should get from any black people who claim they want to see their “community” respected: disgust. I can’t believe your dumb ass actually had the nerve to say it was an “accident” your mom got pregnant. Immaculate conception huh? White men wrote books on the hypersexuality of black women and black people said it wasn’t true. Now we are seeing that maybe there is validity to these theories. Cause on twitter and facebook, all you see are black females putting up ass shots with them. The reason why I’m not upset with the dude with 22 kids is because I spent years bashing dudes for being wreckless. So since we are all equal, now it’s time for black females to feel the wrath. I don’t have to say things like you do nigga because last time I checked, I was raised by a man and am my own man. So nigga I don’t owe your effeminate as, with that dumb ass goofy hat on, any explanation on how I see things from my own perspective. Damn at least the white man that you coons love to hate acknowledges my right to say what I feel is true. Nigga you practice slavery more than he does by trying to restrict my right to state my views on a topic. As long as I have been online, the only people, the only people, who consistently attack people who don’t agree with them is you niggas. No one else. I have disagreed with whites online and don’t get this type of response. But they are hateful huh? Nah, it’s you savages. And I even said on your post “I respectfully disagree” to let you know my approach was civil. And nigga you still couldn’t respect it. You are an intellectual faggot. A male who argues against things that actually support his own maleness. You actually are in support of feminism as a male!!! lol….you niggas prove that you won’t lead anyone anywhere…..get over yourself….no cause you advocate will have many followers
Rameses,
Brother, you seem to be very bitter towards women, and you’re trying to take the political stereotype of “Welfare Queen” and apply it to all single mothers. That’s not only grossly inefficient thinking, but it’s bigoted, chauvinistic, and delusional. If the Black culture would have had to depend on Black men for their survival we would have disappeared off the face of the Earth many years ago – and many White men ain’t no better.
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My mother had me out of wedlock, and she was a professional woman. She didn’t have me to get on welfare; she had me by accident after having sex with a man that she loved – and she never asked him, or anyone else, for a penny – and there are literally MILLIONS of single mothers out there just like her. And by the way, numerically, there are more White women on welfare than there are Black women.
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You said,
“This dude was on tv last week, interviewed on FOX, where he came out of court for child-support case for 22 kids he has. 17 baby mamas bruh. You think I’m mad at the dude? Nope. Not at all.”
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Why aren’t you mad at him? If you’re as upset about having to pay for other people’s kids on welfare as you claim, you should be. You seem to want to throw all of the responsibility for irresponsible men on the backs of women. You act like women are tying these deadbeats down, unzipping their pants and rapping them, when chances are more than likely they probably hemmed and hawed and begged and lied and cried until the women finally gave in. So try to put the irresponsibility of these deadbeats on women. Only an idiot would believe – and an idiot with a vested interest in wanting to believe it at that.
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You also spoke of women going out of their way to entrap “these poor deadbeats.” Have you ever heard of a rubber? All many of these women are guilty of is wanting affection so badly that they were imprudent enough to trust a selfish and a low-life dog.
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So brother, with all due respect, please spare me this ridiculous sermon. I couldn’t believe my eyes as I was reading it. I thought everybody who was out of touch enough to be infected with the backward-thinking ideas that you’ve expressed here had been dead for over 50 years.
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But that just goes to show you, most of us just don’t have a clue about how delusional some of the people who are around us are.
I disagree respectfully Eric….if women came out and said “we want intelligent men who are well read” you know what will happen? the libraries will become filled with men, wearing glasses, reading books. Why? because woman doesn’t have power over men, but she sure has influence. You think men go to clubs because it’s fun? Not really. It’s not the club that gets men excited it’s the possibility of getting women that excites men. To tell you the truth, if a woman didn’t marry a man and had children by him, I don’t feel sorry for her. For what? My dad’s girlfriend, God rest her soul, told me when I was 16 “anytime you lay down with a person, that person can become the parent of your child.”
This goes for women too. And how many women who purposely get pregnant by men to keep men? I mean if you have to trap a man with a child to keep a man that’s really a sorry excuse for a woman to me. But, the least a woman can get from a man is a full commitment (marriage) from her mate before she has children with him. Because chances are, if he’s willing to commit in that way, he will be more than likely to commit to a family. And trust me Eric, sometimes the parent that’s not there (because there are single fathers out there who get no help from mothers) does the least amount of damage. Sometimes the one who does the most damage is the mother who raises you (with help from the state).
matter fact, if you get free housing and food stamps from the state, you can’t call yourself a single mother. You are getting help. You’re not by yourself. The state is your husband. So that single motherhood banner these women wave many times is a joke. And if you are a single mother, at the end of the day you are not a victim. You are a participant in your circumstance. There’s a big difference. And many of these fathers (not all) are prevented from seeing their kids. My dad was one of them. My younger brother was prevented from knowing our dad because of his vindictive mom who didn’t want the truth to be spilled about how much of a let’s say “loose” woman she was. However, because my brother though dad didn’t want him, he hates our father, which is the reason why I don’t have a relationship with him because it is men just like this, who walk around mad at their fathers when much if not all the blame belongs at the doorstep of their mothers.
But instead, he honors his mom because she worked three jobs to take care of him my sister, and their two other brothers by other men. She should work 3 jobs if she’s gonna be irresponsible. That’s the way it works. But to treat black women, who have kids irresponsibly like saints is mortifying to say the least. My great-grandmother was a saint because she raised nine children with love and discipline along with my great grandfather and all of their children were married. No kids out-of-wedlock. Being a single mother indicates you have no discipline or no honor about yourself as a woman. What sound better: “I’m a married woman with children or I’m a baby mama? From those two labels you automatically get a glimpse of the caliber of woman you are dealing with.
We even say that “a man is a real man if he takes on another man’s kids.” WTH? LOL. No he is not. I do respect men who do that but why does that make him real? In many cases it makes him real stupid in my opinion. I mean at what point will these black women stop embarrassing themselves with these bastard kids? What if they shut down welfare let’s say next year? What will these women do? I was out last week and a black chick asked me for some money to help her get some formula? What? Damn God gave you the ability to feed your daughter with your breasts and your child is still hungry? That was ironic to say the least.
I could have a million dollars in my pocket and wouldn’t have given it to her. Not because I’m insensitive. But because I was disgusted by someone who would sit here and have this child knowing she poor, and has no help, and brings a burden into the world anyway. Since black women are always hollering about black men be responsible and all that I say the same thing. This dude was on tv last week, interviewed on FOX, where he came out of court for child-support case for 22 kids he has. 17 baby mamas bruh. You think I’m mad at the dude? Nope. Not at all. Why? Because a man like that couldn’t exist without sorry females assisting him. He admitted on camera, smiling, that he wanted 50 kids. Now you would think after the tenth baby mama, these females would have been like “hell nah. I ain’t dealing with him.” But nope. It kept going on.
Sean Hannity was dumbfounded and not on some black and white stuff either. He said he would have felt the same way if they would have been white. The white lawyer said that many women (black ones too) have babies on purpose with these dudes who they know can’t pay support because they know the system so well, they go and take advantage of taxpaying people and get free stuff. I was glad to hear this white dude admit this because I know it happens. I believe in class warfare. Race doesn’t tell the full picture al the time.
To give dishonorable females like these the same respect we give Clare Huxtable is to lessen the word ‘mother.” For the honorable black women who carry themselves with grace and class: much respect. But these professional leeches get no respect from me. Children born out-of-wedlock need to start asking their mothers why weren’t they married to their fathers when they were conceived? It’s a fair question. So then maybe you can get a clearer picture. I’ll give you an example on this. My ex told me some years ago, that her friend’s father found her on facebook.
They began to talk. Now she was under the impression her dad just left her. However, her father told her that “I had an addiction to drugs and couldn’t let you see me like that. However, your mother is not a saint either. When I met your mom, she was already with someone else. We had sex and produced you, while she was still with someone else.” Her mom almost blew a gasket when she found out he spilled the beans on her tramp behavior. She called him lashing out questioning why did he do that. He told her she had a right to know the full story. This story illustrates the problem in the black community: black men come up short, he’s worth nothing. Black women comes up short, she’s a victim. These women, literally, have made a living off of being professional victims.
And I find it very interesting that when it comes to the topic of babies out-of-wedlock, no black women of high-regard have anything to say about that. Now, they will get on tv and talk about how there are no good black men everywhere. But you never see any tv shows talking about why so many black women have babies out-of-wedlock. Maury Povich makes a living (while making a mockery) of black women and their irresponsible behavior. But it’s funny to most black people. Well it’s not funny when that FICA, MEDICAID, MEDICARE, etc. is taken out of your paycheck to help subsidize these females is it?
You work hard while a female comes to WALMART with two shopping carts full of groceries she gets for just laying on her back and squirting out a child who is more likely to turn out to be either a stripper, a criminal, or gay for both genders. Yeah single mothers do such a fantastic job. If these women raising kids by themselves is so great, then why are these children (and adults) so screwed up? I mean black people are the only group of people who allow their women to get away with the notion that they don’t need a man, especially to raise a child. I’ve never heard any other group/race of people’s women say something like this. Never. But as we all know, the black woman has a cape and can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Can work, 80 hours a week, cook, clean, teach her children trigonometry, volunteer at church, and take down a bear with her bare hands. LOL…..well, if I was a child, I would want to know my father. I wouldn’t want liberals performing social-experiments on me. To hell what my mother says because women are prone to making themselves look better than what they are. In the 80s and 90s they used to use the term “born-again” virgin. LOL….only irresponsible people come up with this type of “foolishness” as the old folks used to say
Rameses,
while I agree with much of what you said, instead of saying “MOTHERS,”you should have said “PARENTS,” because in most cases even the worst mother is twice as good a parent as many fathers. If the Black community had to depend on many of the fathers for their survival we would have long since perished, because many of those clubs you were talking about are filled to the brim with brothers who haven’t even SEEN their kids in years.
just because a woman has kids doesn’t meant she’s a mother….a woman who carries herself right, even if no father is around, works to feed her children and nourish them can be considered a mother. A female who has kids just to live off the state getting welfare is not a mother: she’s a destroyer of herself and her kids. some good advice for women: remember your standing as a lady, and never approve a mean action, nor speak an unrefined word;let all your conduct be such as an honorable and right-minded man may look for in his wife, and the mother of his children. these are wise words to listen to……any behavior that is not conducive to you becoming a wife or mother is uncivilized. You have plenty of females who have kids (not mothers) who run streets and in clubs more than men. If you have kids as a woman, the last place you need to be is at the club….think about it……if you have kids, but staring in my face at the club, I wanna know where is your child. How can you be in the club with a tight dress on or short shorts, in my face, but have a kid[s] with God knows who? that’s not a mother: that’s a clown
About Raising Our Children
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We don’t need any studies to see that we’re on the wrong track as a society. Look around you. Look at the degradation of society and the diminished capacity of children who’s been watered like plants and left to languish in bedrooms across America to be raised by MTV, BET, and ESPN. Many of these “children” are now 35 years old, and they’re still at home living with their parents. We routinely see 40 year-olds walking around in sideways tilted baseball caps and tennis shoes like their they’re still teenagers.
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In contrast, my late wife and I got married when I was 21 and she was 19 years of age. We had two kids of our own by the time I was 23 – and I was what was considered a dysfunctional child at the time. I was a high school dropout who went in and out of juvenile institutions repeatedly between the ages of 12 and 19 years of age. Yet, due to the social mores of the time, in spite of my dysfunction, a basic foundation of social values, a sense of responsibility, and a basic educational foundation had been ingrained in me that allowed me to suck it up, become a responsible parent and member of society, and continue my education when I was called upon to do so.
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What allowed me to do that was, back then, society made sure that by the time a child graduated from the 6th grade to go into junior high school he or she had a basic education, at least to the extent that he or she could read, write, do basic math, and had a basic understanding of what it meant to be a responsible citizen. So your so-called “study” notwithstanding, I submit that the simple reality of the current condition of society says it all.
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The problem is, we’ve become a hedonistic society, so the tail is now wagging the dog. We’ve lost sight of the fact that once we have children, the future of this nation depends on our recognition of the fact that our primary responsibility in life is to raise those children effectively, not to try to find a convenient way to get them out of the way so we can pursue our selfish and hedonistic interests. The OBJECT of working and establishing careers is to provide us with the necessary resources to raise our children, not to impress our society with our wealth and success.
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Therefore, if you take two families, and one has accumulated a billion dollars, but they’ve produced children that are bratty, self-absorbed, and irresponsible, and the second family that is lower middle-class, but their children are well-adjusted and responsible members of society, in terms of society’s best interest, the latter family is the more successful. Thus, our society is currently in decline due to our failure to recognize that very basic and fundamental fact. In short, we’ve become hedonist. We’ve come to view the “American Dream” as the unfettered right to accumulate “things,” when Americans should be dreaming of a better and more just America.