Where is your response?

As a former debate team member in college and one who became the youngest debate coach and judge in the country intercollegiate after graduation, clearly I am not hesitant about debating you. But what you fail to understand is that debate serves more of a purpose than tearing people down and hearing yourself talk to massage your ego.

First who would judge or moderate? Second you prove my point about being programmed because you are so locked into one mindset that you would resist facts like Donald Trump does, in my opinion. Thus what would be the goal of the debate? You really should read many of the articles I have written and how I include and abundance of facts before you say you want to debate me.

Your points do not refute anything in the article thus far. Then you prove my points, so thanks. Furthermore your bias is so locked into one tunnel and one school of thought that it is often a waste of time to debate with someone like you.

Debate does not begin with disagreement. It begins by establishing a set of parameters and mutual agreements on terms, basic principles and the agreement to respect each other and accept real facts. From what you wrote I do not believe you can successfully do that. Debate is about sharing ideas and viewpoints, not about ego and hearing yourself talk. Whether you are with The Root or not. Save yourself the embarrassment.

Thank you for catching that and for being awake, alert and aware.
As for the persons commenting before you, it always amazes me when people like them who do not know how to spot, expose or stop slave programming want to pretend it does not exist. SO KARLTON CHRONICLES I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU

Don’t think I cannot respond to you. I just don’t spend my time going point for point with people who cannot hear in the first place. I see someone said I did not respond to you, as if to imply that I cannot. Wrong. I am more busy counseling, conducting seminars and workshops, mediation, life-coaching and then some. Plus I am on a deadline with my publisher for two books almost complete. Plus this is not the only site I write for, thus assumptions are just that – inaccurate assumptions.

If you want to talk about every point you and others made, end your contact number to my email and I will call. My data, training and facts are accurate so i run from nothing. And your use of verbal judo does not intimidate me in the slightest.

Plus slave programming has clearly been proven to be effective, cause generational cycles and still be present today. Sociology can prove that all day long and stats reaffirm my point. BTW I am neither a dem nor a liberal. But I am not going to participate in a debate on a blog that is not in real time. Email me.

I am not going to spend my time answering point by point as those who are getting offended are simply proving my points. I have the training, the counseling experience with thousands of men, women, couples and families. I have done the research. I have the stats to back up my claims. And those of you, especially women, who will be honest, will have to know that this article is true – whether you like it or not and whether it is talking about YOU or not.

Those men who try to slam this article would have to refute evidence and experience. And both men and women who try to attack this article apparently are ignoring or failing to understand the prefaces I have set forth in the beginning of this article. To you I say go back and read slower.

If you are paying attention, you will know that I am married to a great, strong and outspoken yet highly respectful educated African American woman. I listen to, highly respect and learn from her but I am the head of my household and I lead by example. What are you and who are you with? Thus I do not speak from a point of bias against women, though some of you are speaking from your bias – not from training, stats or real evidence.

Your experiences are your own and may vary. But they neither change the facts nor the reality of what so many African American men have experienced. I suggest you wake up and realize your experiences do not determine someone elses reality. Nor do mine. Which is why I am not writing based on my limited experiences. Can you say the same?

And while I have counseled thousands and thousands of people who have been helped and families restored, how many have you helped and what have you done other that spout off nonsense, failed to refute this article and heard yourself talk?

It is likely that those of you who are offended are the exact types I am exposing. That is why it bothers you, because I pulled the band-aid off the sore you have been hiding and denying.

Belief that history effects the station of people hudreds or thousands of years later is the studies of psychology, sociology, and anthropology. That means there could be proof of the claim the author is making that is supported by science. But the false idea of tying blacks to “liberal” identity politics any time we make claims about our historical treatment has beem a conservative tool older than the current Republican party (which was once liberal). So should black men take up a conservative political identity instead? Or do you agree that the politics of conservative whites, in whatever parry had the least amount of melanin at the time, have better ideas about black folks goals and dreams in a democracy no one wanted us to be a part of? If you are black, then brotha – you must see that a liberal ideology kills far fewer black men and women than a conservative one. I know this for a fact but its no ones job here to educate you. Since you talk so strong and independent it should be no problem for you but if you ever want help getting your weight up on these complex topics just let me know. Brotha.

The author didn’t respond to you that I saw, so let me take this one. First and foremost your tone in your comment appeared to me, meant to condescend. It’s fine. We all have opinions but it seems like you wanted to defy the purpose of the article directly by doing the exact thing that he talks about. I’m not the comment police but it’s in poor taste. I respect your role at The Root. I love the root and if you write for them its likely I know your work. I actually have a suspicion I can guess which writer you are as well, based on you irreverence.

Now you started off throwing shade on the “liberal mindset” to explain in some way this slavery syndrome you deny exists. One of the most knowledgeable people on black specific forms of PTSD is Chauncey DeVega. There is no doubt that when measured the rates of mental illness and PTSD in blacks is a grave, unspoken crisis. But its unspoken because our medical scientists and doctors who study such things have made studying the causes of black specific mental damage or illness the last priority of the medical community. There is a lot of interesting studies out there that confirm massively disperate treatment of black mental patients going back since medical records were available. So since this field of study is in its infancy you have no leg to stand on saying that there is no relation to blacks historical status as slaves or the lowest form of less-dead, discarded peoples in much of the world. So in short, unless ypu did a series of studies or know of a body of evidence t

Black Women are actually the true face of the feminist movement. They’ve taken care of black AND white people’s kids. Lets not forget the lack of educated black men and/or fathers that abandon their kids. Lets not forget the Black Marriage rate either. Black people are alleged to be the most “moral” yet we have nothing to show for it. Shouldn’t this be the man’s fault since MEN are supposed to be the leaders with their promiscuity left unchecked in the black community?

A feminist could easily say “The Faulty/Timid Black Men Doctrine”

Please stop this useless “race based inferiority”/”overbearing black woman” crap young blood.

Half the time your racial rants have you sounding like a begging Yvette Carnall/Cynthia G Female.

You are weak my beloved brother…people must be judged on individual accounts NOT group based dynamics.

I am a well known journalist on TheRoot.com (this is my pseudonym)…I challenge you to a debate.

I agree that a “woman” should respect her man regardless of race, I assume it is directed at black women because of the origin of the article itself (i.e.) thyblackman.com, therefore you are speaking to our culture in general. Nevertheless I can’t say that it is just a black female thing.

I have never understood throughout the years observing black men in the kind of situations/relationships that you speak of, without asking the question as I would do from time to time, what is wrong with a man or woman for that matter who would be in a relationship with someone who would speak to them in such a manner and or treat them with such disrespect, weather man or woman. I am a domestic violence survivor, I would never disrespect my man in such a way, neither would I allow a man to disrespect me either. It is called mutual respect, learning how to communicate and disagree in mature appropriate ways, and it is definitely not just black women, I have seen it in all races from both sides. I am a counselor at an emergency shelter for women of domestic violence, my experiences has not made me bitter I carry no baggage, I have allowed myself to embrace healing, from the abuse experience, I have neither do I carry any bitterness. The women I have met as you describe have deep seated anger unforgiveness and bitterness, so what is wrong with the man who would hook up with a woman who is not whole healed and complete, I ask you what is his problem?