I am a former debate judge and I can say without a doubt Pence did not win the debate. Why are so many people saying he did? Because they do not know what experienced debaters or debate judges look at to see who won. Thee uneducated public never ceases to amaze me.

The Pence camp put out that he won before the debate even started so they went for controlling the narrative. Am I a Clinton supporter or a fan of Kaine? no, I look objectively at the facts. I find it hypocritical that Trump supporters are OK with Trump interrupting Hillary but then bothered when Kaine interrupts Pence. Pence was rock solid in the beginning of the debate but then he was rattled and shaken.

To most of you who do not do alot of public speaking, you probably didn’t notice that because he concealed it well, yet he was shaken. Pence, like Trump, constantly refuses to answer a question then diverts the issue to attacking his opponents. That trick works on the public but not those of us who can spot what he is doing. He could not defend Trump because there is no defense to the idiotic things Trump has said.

When Kaine quoted Trump and we all heard how bad it sounded, Trump/Pence supporters turned around and blamed Kaine. But blame Trump because they were his words. As for insults, the Trump camp has insulted almost everybody we can think of except white males and white racists. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Trump supporters are so blinded by your hate for Hillary that you cannot see what Trump is doing. He is playing all sides against the middle. And if he wants to represent all the tax payers, he should pay his fair share.

You have to pay taxes and if it makes him smart not to pay any, what does that make you? You may say most say Pence won but I will say that mostly everybody thought the world was flat and they all were wrong.