Discussions about Republican vs Democrats are distractions..

Conversations along the lines of Conservative vs Liberal brings the real issues into the front and reveal where a person is coming from..

The real issue is do you want the government to be your servant or master?

Are you a collection of DNA and chemical processes or are you child of God created in his image?

Do you have the faith of our forefathers?

Until the black community collectively agree to live by a set of core values in regard to how we will treat one another, raise our children and belief about ourselves there will be no unity…

I agree with you as well, with some exceptions. Let me first say, I’m looking at this from a Black perspective. I don’t study political or party history. My focus is on the last 50 to 100 years. Slavery was accepted by the majority of both parties, including the church. I agree that the slave holders were democrats and it was the republicans that eventually freed the slaves, temporarily. (Jim Crow) But it wasn’t out of the goodness of their hearts to free the slaves. It was about money (south) and power (north) and the fact that the republicans were going to lose the wealth of the south by them seceding.

Lincoln didn’t really want to free the slaves. What a lot of people don’t realize and neither did I, because of the propaganda that has been promoted about him was, he actually agreed to keep slavery intact, as long as the south stayed in the union. Watch the civil war video on PBS. As far as conservatism, Black people were the most conservative at one point, but it had nothing to do with politics, it was about morals and values. I agree with you on the traditional values and educational choice, since as a country, we’ve totally given up on our public school system, which used to be number one in the world.

But I think the majority of republicans are being taken advantage of, based on the traditional values ploy. In my opinion the republican party is controlled by big business and they use traditional values and religion to dupe it’s members. As far as the free market system, there’s no such thing. The markets are controlled by those in control, (big business) and they control the government, while the majority of Americans fight and argue over the small picture, party lines, rather than focusing on the big picture, the issues like the diminishing middle class and the continued growth gap between the rich and poor, as Brother Wattree said, how the so called free market financial institutions almost put us in a depression, which I really think we’re in.

I could go on and on as well, but I don’t think I have to. We should all be independents and let the parties fight it out instead of the way it is now. As I said before, It’s the system that’s the problem. Want proof? How does one get elected on the state and federal level? You need three things. 1. a lot of money 2. You have to know somebody and 3. Name recondition. These are not the best criteria for someone to represent the country, yet this is what happens every 2-4 years. If you’re lucky enough to get elected, you’ve made it because we continue to vote for the same people, even though nothing changes.

Someone once said a sign of insanity is doing the same thing, but expecting a different result and please don’t say I should vote republican because that won’t change a thing. Want a solution? Take the money out of elections and let it be based on merit, but will this happen, I doubt it, but hey, we have a Black President, which I thought I’d never see in my lifetime. We have national teachers, policeman, fireman, why not politician. I guess anything is possible, but I doubt it, which is why I prefer to focus our energy on us doing for ourselves. This I do agree with on. It was just in the past and in certain circumstances, still now, we were discriminated against and didn’t have the opportunities we have now.

Black Unity means financial independence and happiness

I am almost with you except on a couple of points;

1. Eric Wattree, with respect, barely knows what he talking about in regard to the history of the Republican Party. The Democratic Party predates the Republican Party by nearly one hundred years and it has been the primary party up until 1970, responsible for persecution of black people in America for 400 years. That is why he always begins his long diatribe about Republicans from the 1920’s. Which is around the same time that blacks as a majority stop voting Republican in response to fake overtures by the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has been the dominate party in this country until 1995 – The year when the Republicans finally controlled the House.

2. You state – ” But the republicans want you to pull yourselves up from your bootstraps, without giving you boots.”

Terrance with all due respect, here are the “bootstraps” and the “boots” that “Conservatives” feel that everyone should have:

1. Limited, smaller government that is not siphoning the money out of your pocket. You earn it, You should be able to control more of it for your family and to “FUND” your dreams.

2. Pro-Traditional Family- You cannot build a legacy or economic unity when you have scores of single parent women and children with no fathers. Our family is “CORE” by which we develop the next generation, pass on traditions and create “STABLE” communities.

3. Choice in Education – Using my tax dollars, I should have the ability to send my children to educated in the school of my choice.

4. Greater access to the Free Market system – Let’s reduce the regulations from deterring those who want to start a business.

I can go on but can you see that these are “boots” that we must be willing to put on instead on the liberal boot in which the “soles” have been removed.

I think Brother Wattree did a good job in covering the republicans. Having said that, the democrats waist your money, they make you or want to make you dependent on them, rather than helping you become independent. The welfare system was one of the worst things to happen to the Black community. In order to get support, you basically had to kick the man out of the house. No party is perfect. But the republicans want you to pull yourselves up from your bootstraps, without giving you boots.

The democrats will give you boots, but will expect you to forever beg them for the straps. To me the bottom line in this day and time, both parties are in the pockets of big business. The republicans don’t hide it. The democrats try to, while claiming not to. The real truth is our political system is messed up. Yes it’s better than many out there, but it has become totally out of control, pitting American against American, when in reality, we all want the same things. Last but not least, both parties are still racist. Didn’t mean to be so long winded, but you asked.

Black Unity means financial independence and happiness

For my education, would you please elaborate on your comment on how the “Democrat Party” is the lesser of two evils?

You make some good points, why I should still vote for Democrats, even though I still see them as the lesser of the evils who continue to take advantage of us. This is why I’d rather focus on us doing more for ourselves, rather than relying on the government to solve our problems. This is what the Asians and others do.

Black Unity means financial independence and happiness

LOL, you are a funny guy.
If it barks like a dog, smells like a dog, …; It must be a cat.
Meow business man meeeow.
LOL

You said, “Wattree is a socialist and an atheist.”

I am neither of those things. Now I understand why you’re such an inefficient thinker – because you’re prone towards making unwarranted assumptions – “All dogs have fleas. My cat has fleas. Therefore, my cat is a dog.”

Eric’s lack of a direct response to my question in itself is an answer..

I thought this website was supposed to be about discussion on how the black community can be “uplifted” in our current state of affairs.

It is troubling that the black “intellectuals” have chosen “socialism” and “humanist” ideology as their guiding principles. The white liberals will continue to use them as their mouth pieces until Hispanic community will ensure them of victory during voting season and then they will be cast to the side.

Then the black community will be left with the Godless, sterile, empty, angry rhetoric that will doom most of as refugees in our own country.

In the meanwhile, Asian’s for example are continuing to do well in America, practicing capitalism the old fashion way, their children getting educated though they don’t have a Sharpton, Jackson and Wattree speaking for them.

I’m out on this one…Peace.