1. What was the political ideology of free blacks before the creation of the Republican Party?

2. Why is it that in nearly all major American cities that are controlled by the Democratic Party(Progressives) for decades, blacks experience the highest crime rate, highest unemployment and the lowest levels educational achievement?

3. Why is it that black liberals(progressives) cannot name a specific conservative policy that directly harms black people?

4. Who are the white people in the Democratic Party who fight for black peoples self-determination, economic independence and community uplift?

History:

5. Why did you not mention that Franklin Roosevelt appointed KKK Lawyer Hugo Black to the Supreme Court?

6. Why did you not mention that Jim Crow, Black Codes and other segregation laws were instituted by the Democratic Party?

7. The Northwest Ordinance of 1790 included provisions to stop the spread of slavery into the new territories. Also, the Missouri Compromise. All of this happened long before the existence of a Republican Party. How does this fact line up with your commentary about why the Civil War stated? Is it possible that many people disagreed with the institution of slavery because they felt it was wrong?

I could go on as your commentary as many other holes in it but please follow your own advice and portray yourself as you are; which appears to be a liberal, socialist. By the way, I am black and conservative because of the existence of evil in the world and need to for men to control other men.
I don’t see the socialism you advocate as being the solution for that problem.

I agree the Republican Party is in trouble because they are criticized when they attempt to reach out to the black community and vilified when they don’t. They lack the voice to confront the black progressives because they the progressives hide behind their black skin and scream racism when their arguments lack substance. They are looking to black people to say it for them, like the Democrats do; but the Democrats hand out money to people and nobody hates Santa Claus.

If black people are wise, they will realize that eventually we must be responsible as “individuals” for the “collective” progress of our communities. Unless we practice those things that will bring success and “honor” to our community such as stable two parent families, faith in God, respect for life and access to good education we will enslaved again in a government sanctioned form of slave that exists in many other socialist countries. You think black people got it bad here, see how they have it in those countries.

I’m in total agreement with you. I’ve been saying the exact same thing for years. We weren’t like this when King and Malcolm was alive. When I was growing up the community was full of Black businesses.

When I was 11 years old I had a job. Mr. Pierce who owned the liquor store put all the candy and goodies that that kids like to one side, and I had my own little counter and a cigar box full of money to sell the kids what they wanted. I loved it! I made money, and it made me popular with the little girls.

But after King and Malcolm were kill, the poverty pimps swooped in and convinced the people that we couldn’t do anything on our. They got us to believe that we needed to pay them to put pressure on the government. That’s how we fell into this “we got to wait til daddy gets home” mindset – and we’d better shake it off, because even the very best daddy can’t take care of millions of kids, and kids are what we’re acting like.

I wrote the following in an earlier article:

“These so-called Black leaders should be educating Black people to understand that more money passes through the Black community than through most countries, so we could create our own jobs. But we don’t, and I’ll tell you why – because Black people are the product of the very same racist environment as White people, so we’re just as reluctant to patronize Black businesses as any Hillbilly. Unlike any other community in the world, we’d rather take our money and patronize other people – ANY other people – as long as they aren’t Black. That’s a hard pill to swallow, but it is, what it is.

“It’s time for Black people to come to terms with our racist attitudes toward one another. If we’re going to hold a seminar on poverty, the major topic of discussion shouldn’t be Barack Obama, but why we’re so willing to pass by hundreds of Black businesses in the community to take our money to Walmart. Now, I’d be a hypocrite to say never shop at Walmart. I realize that sometimes our finances force us to deal with the Devil, but we should, at the very least, balance our spending. Because, until we come to terms with what is essentially a boycott of Black businesses, whining about high unemployment is silly.
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“So, again, one of the many things that President Obama can’t do, is to sign a bill bestowing common sense upon the people. Learning to love and respect other Black people, and acting with common sense, are two things that no one else can give us.”
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http://wattree.blogspot.com/2012/12/beneath-spin-eric-l_10.html

But if we change this mindset and start to support and build in our own community, we would have the money and clout to control a piece of this unjust political system like the wealthy does. We would also be able to weather the storm better when we didn’t get what we wanted, and our vote wouldn’t be taken for granted, like it is now. It’s past time we start supporting each other. For information on how to do this, click on my name.

Black Unity means financial independence and happiness

I don’t think you really believe that. Most of the American people are just struggling to survive – but we are “ignite” as hell though.

I’m going to repeat what I said to Robert. If we don’t allow ourselves to be aligned with a major political party that will dilute our clout. It is essential in this political environment to pick a side – and if our only choice is between the Bogeyman and the Devil, if we don’t support the Bogeyman, we give the Devil a leg up.
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The major problem in not with the party system in any regard. We are the problem. We’ve allowed ourselves to become so apathetic and uninformed that we’re giving away our power. It doesn’t matter how much money the powers that be flood into the system. All of that money would be ineffectual if we didn’t allow it to influence our vote.
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Thus, all it takes to control our government, or any politician, is an engaged and informed electorate. So what we really need to do is turn off BET, MTV, and ESPN, and put as much interest in our children’s future as we do Beyoncé’s ass, and Kobe’s jump shot. Period.
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Finally, Marcus, I’m sure you’ve noticed that I’ve completely ignored a number of your little caustic remarks. There are several reasons for that. First, my background is in psychology, so I’m pretty sure I understand where you’re coming from. Thus, your remarks are more flattering than anything else. Secondly, even if I wasn’t flattered by your remarks, I’m an adult, so I don’t indulge in spitball fights or play in the sandbox. Finally – and I would have thought that you would have long since recognized this fact, but I guess you’re not very quick in catching on – but your assessment of me is about as important in my life as the breaking news that a germ under a toilet seat in Uzbekistan deciding to commit suicide.

The difference between you and I is that you look at them as two separate and competing entities and I look at them as part of a whole system. You argue the lessor of two evils, I argue that they are both part and parcel of the same evil and therefore need to be addressed accordingly.

But more importantly your argument about the Republican party in general show a marked lack of understanding and instead degenerates in to a gross stereotype. You use of the term party of bigots is particularly interesting in that by the use of that term, you eliminate any conversation of the actual diversity in the party. Diversity that you yourself mention in the article.

So I stand by my consistent argument. You argue that you are a progressive, and maybe this is true, but the reality is is that no matter how you deny it, all your post put you in the category of liberal apologist. I am not the only one who has said this about your stuff.

Like Richard Prior said to paraphrase, am I supposed to believe you or my lying eyes???

I think you made an outstanding point here:

“Liberals and conservatives are both ideologues, and as such, tend to be different sides of the same coin. They both have a propensity to give ideology priority over unadulterated truth. So when truth fails to conform to their particular ideological position, they both have a tendency to try to bend and contort the truth in order to mold it into a more comfortable fit…”

That is a very concise and great way to put it. I however took out the end because it didn’t include the natural extension of democratic party as well.

If you would have keep to that premise and extended it logically to through to the end of your article I think it would have been a much better article, however you didn’t and bounced back ultimately to your implicit argument for liberalism (which you always do) and as a result an argument for the democratic party.

For example, you argue that you are a progressive and progressives aren’t ideological. That is not true. As a collective, progressives aren’t ideological, but every progressive is ideological by definition. You set up the context for your “truth” and then seek it. The fact that so many progressives are leftist and left of liberals indicates that there is also a connection that cannot be disputed, but that is not my major point.

My major point is that you make the assertion in your last comment to Roberts very sound thoughts from Malcolm on the Fox and Wolf that, “It is essential in this political environment to pick a side”

I disagree. I think the logical choice for Black Americans is to pick no side and become political pragmatists. Right now there is no need for the democrats to truly compete for the Black vote because we voluntarily give it to them regardless of what the ‘payback’ for that vote is.

As the old saying goes to young women and sex, “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free”.

This is why I disagree ultimately with so many of your post, and besides many of the logical inconsistencies in your writing there is a philosophical gulf between us.

I believe in the concept of Black power, which expresses itself through the political system in the form of pro-Black independent pragmatism. Through that lens, which is the essence of the philosophies of both Marcus Garvey and to an extent Malcolm X, our political activities should be directly related to the creation of Black power.

In this modern political context, neither party advances that cause, yet they both hold certain beneficial ideological positions that can advance that cause.

You on the other hand hold to this abstractified concept of ‘progressive’ which in reality has no substance. Progressing towards what? That random pursuit of truth? Identifying truth, and creating social change are two materially different things.