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		By: Ramses		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[good perspective @Black Atticus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good perspective @Black Atticus</p>
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		By: Black Atticus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Black Atticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 22:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think what&#039;s sad is whether you&#039;re defending the movie or defending spike&#039;s point, VERY FEW of us in these discussions believe that we can come up to a conclusion WITH OUR OWN DEDUCTIVE REASONING without it being influenced by our own skin tone.  So because I&#039;m a black man, my mind can&#039;t think outside of the black experience; i&#039;m just locked in.  that&#039;s B.S.  One of the most LIMITING statements I&#039;ve read from blog to blog was &quot;can&#039;t no one outside of our race tell our story&quot; --that&#039;s like saying, I can&#039;t study world religions, fathom their history, people and culture -- learn their language and speak just as fluently as the natives, TELL THEIR STORY ACCURATELY (on some GRIOT shit) without so much as a hitch or a flaw? Then tell me that the BASIS for me not being able to do so,is because i&#039;m black!?; cause i&#039;m not &quot;them&quot; ---that&#039;s very limiting.  I&#039;m sure the guy running our country right now heard a lot of the same crap, but I digress...we don&#039;t owe Spike an apology. Spike owes his fans (of all races and colors) an apology for stooping down to just complaining; INSTEAD of using his INFLUENCE in a more productive way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what&#8217;s sad is whether you&#8217;re defending the movie or defending spike&#8217;s point, VERY FEW of us in these discussions believe that we can come up to a conclusion WITH OUR OWN DEDUCTIVE REASONING without it being influenced by our own skin tone.  So because I&#8217;m a black man, my mind can&#8217;t think outside of the black experience; i&#8217;m just locked in.  that&#8217;s B.S.  One of the most LIMITING statements I&#8217;ve read from blog to blog was &#8220;can&#8217;t no one outside of our race tell our story&#8221; &#8211;that&#8217;s like saying, I can&#8217;t study world religions, fathom their history, people and culture &#8212; learn their language and speak just as fluently as the natives, TELL THEIR STORY ACCURATELY (on some GRIOT shit) without so much as a hitch or a flaw? Then tell me that the BASIS for me not being able to do so,is because i&#8217;m black!?; cause i&#8217;m not &#8220;them&#8221; &#8212;that&#8217;s very limiting.  I&#8217;m sure the guy running our country right now heard a lot of the same crap, but I digress&#8230;we don&#8217;t owe Spike an apology. Spike owes his fans (of all races and colors) an apology for stooping down to just complaining; INSTEAD of using his INFLUENCE in a more productive way.</p>
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		By: Black Atticus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Black Atticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[another thing about the use of &#039;Nigger&#039; in QT Films; not ONE time did I disagree with how the word was used in DJANGO -- mainly because I know the power of racism, my parents were raised in the south and I&#039;ve lived down here most of my life; i KNOW that&#039;s how they really think -- what was very ironic after the movie was over, i actually saw some white people disgusted at how ACCURATE QT&#039;s film captured ignorance.  I for one was NOT shocked; i was thinking: &#039;Yes...that&#039;s how your forefather&#039;s thought and acted...&#039; and truth be told, whether is a brother on a horse or rolling in an Audi, that &quot;well i&#039;ll be damned...(jaw dropping in bewilderment)&quot; thing still goes down today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another thing about the use of &#8216;Nigger&#8217; in QT Films; not ONE time did I disagree with how the word was used in DJANGO &#8212; mainly because I know the power of racism, my parents were raised in the south and I&#8217;ve lived down here most of my life; i KNOW that&#8217;s how they really think &#8212; what was very ironic after the movie was over, i actually saw some white people disgusted at how ACCURATE QT&#8217;s film captured ignorance.  I for one was NOT shocked; i was thinking: &#8216;Yes&#8230;that&#8217;s how your forefather&#8217;s thought and acted&#8230;&#8217; and truth be told, whether is a brother on a horse or rolling in an Audi, that &#8220;well i&#8217;ll be damned&#8230;(jaw dropping in bewilderment)&#8221; thing still goes down today.</p>
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		By: ms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It sound to me like you&#039;re intentionally ignoring hundreds of years of *intentional* resource hoarding, violent white terrorism, jim crow (old and new) and social power dynamics.

I guess black people just thought up slavery and structural inequality for the last hundreds of years. Let me just close my eyes and tell myself that were all the same....wait for it....yeah, I GOT NOTHIN.

Don&#039;t come in here with that &quot;we all just need to pretend that racism doesn&#039;t exist and it&#039;ll go away&quot; stuff. You will not blame black people for being victims of white supremacy. Words have power (especially when they&#039;re backed by years and years of violence and institutional power).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sound to me like you&#8217;re intentionally ignoring hundreds of years of *intentional* resource hoarding, violent white terrorism, jim crow (old and new) and social power dynamics.</p>
<p>I guess black people just thought up slavery and structural inequality for the last hundreds of years. Let me just close my eyes and tell myself that were all the same&#8230;.wait for it&#8230;.yeah, I GOT NOTHIN.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t come in here with that &#8220;we all just need to pretend that racism doesn&#8217;t exist and it&#8217;ll go away&#8221; stuff. You will not blame black people for being victims of white supremacy. Words have power (especially when they&#8217;re backed by years and years of violence and institutional power).</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really interesting article, well thought out and well written and certainly inspired me to check out Lee&#039;s back catalogue (something up to this point I&#039;ve missed). But I still have a problem with it - your use of the word &quot;us&quot; - &quot;There is nothing to suggest in Tarantino’s personal history that he loves us...&quot;. As soon as you start using the term &quot;us&quot; that instantly begets the term &quot;them&quot;, and that&#039;s where racial prejudices always begins, with this &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot; mentality. 

It sounds to me you are reinforcing a difference, that being black somehow makes you different from being white. It doesn&#039;t. There is no &quot;us&quot; based on skin colour, there is just people. Different upbringings, different cultures sure, but I would never say I was different to someone else just because of my skin colour. Prejudices will never fade away as long as people keep this &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot; mentality. That maybe naive but it&#039;s what I truly believe. 

With Tarantino, sure his films are two dimensional, and perhaps even exploitative, however all &#039;N*****&#039; is, is a word. By keeping it as an offensive, hallowed word it maintains it&#039;s power. If people used it in as any other word, it&#039;s meaning would evolve and change as language does and it would no longer be this vile thing that it is. That&#039;s the one positive with it being scattered in Tarantino&#039;s films, it takes away it&#039;s power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting article, well thought out and well written and certainly inspired me to check out Lee&#8217;s back catalogue (something up to this point I&#8217;ve missed). But I still have a problem with it &#8211; your use of the word &#8220;us&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;There is nothing to suggest in Tarantino’s personal history that he loves us&#8230;&#8221;. As soon as you start using the term &#8220;us&#8221; that instantly begets the term &#8220;them&#8221;, and that&#8217;s where racial prejudices always begins, with this &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; mentality. </p>
<p>It sounds to me you are reinforcing a difference, that being black somehow makes you different from being white. It doesn&#8217;t. There is no &#8220;us&#8221; based on skin colour, there is just people. Different upbringings, different cultures sure, but I would never say I was different to someone else just because of my skin colour. Prejudices will never fade away as long as people keep this &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; mentality. That maybe naive but it&#8217;s what I truly believe. </p>
<p>With Tarantino, sure his films are two dimensional, and perhaps even exploitative, however all &#8216;N*****&#8217; is, is a word. By keeping it as an offensive, hallowed word it maintains it&#8217;s power. If people used it in as any other word, it&#8217;s meaning would evolve and change as language does and it would no longer be this vile thing that it is. That&#8217;s the one positive with it being scattered in Tarantino&#8217;s films, it takes away it&#8217;s power.</p>
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		By: ms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spike Lee has my (limited) gratitude and respect - and I STILL disagree with him. Freedom means being able to say yes AND no. I agree that we shouldn&#039;t judge Lee wholesale for his patriarchal and classicist messages. His legacy shouldn&#039;t be reduced to his shortcomings.

But his legacy never has been, and never will be, *representative* of the entire black experience and we need to stop promoting that LIE. Spike Lee does not speak for Malcolm just because he made a movie about him. 

Spike Lee&#039;s films are not keeping black people in poverty - and they ain&#039;t lifting us out of it. So I don&#039;t understand why we keep placing his films on par w/ the underground railroad and black race salvation. I don&#039;t get why blackness is threatened when one of our celebrities faces public critique or outright dislike by other black people. When do we get to agree with or disagree with black people because we want to and not because of some mandatory allegiance? 

It&#039;s really easy (and quite the convenient defense mechanism) to call us slaves for our disagreement or take our embrace of a film as automatic embrace of QT and everything he ever did wrong. Or to equate it with slander and an attempt at destroying Spike Lee...It&#039;s really easy to accuse people who like the movie of having some kind of diminished or &#039;romanticized&#039; version of slavery and black history. I wonder if there are those who might have a bit of a romanticized version of Spike Lee? I wonder if too many people are superimposing their own love of Spike Lee onto to what it means to be black?

If black folks wanna like the movie because they wanna see a black man save his woman - let them. If black folk wanna see evil white people pay with their lives - let them. No one has the right to take that from them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spike Lee has my (limited) gratitude and respect &#8211; and I STILL disagree with him. Freedom means being able to say yes AND no. I agree that we shouldn&#8217;t judge Lee wholesale for his patriarchal and classicist messages. His legacy shouldn&#8217;t be reduced to his shortcomings.</p>
<p>But his legacy never has been, and never will be, *representative* of the entire black experience and we need to stop promoting that LIE. Spike Lee does not speak for Malcolm just because he made a movie about him. </p>
<p>Spike Lee&#8217;s films are not keeping black people in poverty &#8211; and they ain&#8217;t lifting us out of it. So I don&#8217;t understand why we keep placing his films on par w/ the underground railroad and black race salvation. I don&#8217;t get why blackness is threatened when one of our celebrities faces public critique or outright dislike by other black people. When do we get to agree with or disagree with black people because we want to and not because of some mandatory allegiance? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really easy (and quite the convenient defense mechanism) to call us slaves for our disagreement or take our embrace of a film as automatic embrace of QT and everything he ever did wrong. Or to equate it with slander and an attempt at destroying Spike Lee&#8230;It&#8217;s really easy to accuse people who like the movie of having some kind of diminished or &#8216;romanticized&#8217; version of slavery and black history. I wonder if there are those who might have a bit of a romanticized version of Spike Lee? I wonder if too many people are superimposing their own love of Spike Lee onto to what it means to be black?</p>
<p>If black folks wanna like the movie because they wanna see a black man save his woman &#8211; let them. If black folk wanna see evil white people pay with their lives &#8211; let them. No one has the right to take that from them.</p>
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		By: TRUTHteller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[honestly, much love to spike, but anybody who stereotypes black people (or any flesh tone) from any form of entertainment is a moronic pea brain.
live life. meet people. talk to them. determine if they are good, honorable people or backstabbing, lying fuckfaces. and make your decisions based on that but quit bitching about dumb ass movies.

life is short.
evolve and move on.



or sit &#038; cry about hollywood bullshit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honestly, much love to spike, but anybody who stereotypes black people (or any flesh tone) from any form of entertainment is a moronic pea brain.<br />
live life. meet people. talk to them. determine if they are good, honorable people or backstabbing, lying fuckfaces. and make your decisions based on that but quit bitching about dumb ass movies.</p>
<p>life is short.<br />
evolve and move on.</p>
<p>or sit &amp; cry about hollywood bullshit.</p>
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		By: Rogue Wave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you&#8230;</p>
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		By: sankofa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...i Could have freed more slaves if they knew they were slaves...&quot;  
Harriet Tubman]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;i Could have freed more slaves if they knew they were slaves&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Harriet Tubman</p>
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		By: mike johnson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...those upset about the dreaded word are still slaves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;those upset about the dreaded word are still slaves.</p>
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