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		By: gaoxiaen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My feeling is that Romney will win the nomination and pick Condoleezza Rice for VP. Obama will promise to legalize pot and win. Ron Paul supporters will write in Ron Paul and consequently help seal Romney&#039;s fate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feeling is that Romney will win the nomination and pick Condoleezza Rice for VP. Obama will promise to legalize pot and win. Ron Paul supporters will write in Ron Paul and consequently help seal Romney&#8217;s fate.</p>
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		By: gaoxiaen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gaoxiaen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Private property is a big issue with libertarians. That&#039;s why we can&#039;t smoke in a restaurant or bar. Because do-gooders control what other people can do on their own private property. Personally, I agree with Ron Paul about restaurants serving who they want, but it sure is stupid to turn away customers. They would probably lose white customers, too. They would lose my patronage. I don&#039;t want this to be another &quot;I have black friends&quot; type thing but I have no problem patronizing minority-owned businesses. Usually I don&#039;t know who the owner is, race just isn&#039;t a factor (unless they&#039;re more likely to carry something that others don&#039;t). Some of the best officers and NCO&#039;s that I served with in the military and my favorite boss I worked for in a steel mill were black. My feeling is that having been treated unfairly in the past, they went out of the way to be fair and treated people as individuals.
  Being a longtime big-L Libertarian, in college after the military (during Nancy Reagan&#039;s &quot;Just Say No&quot; campaign) I argued that the drug laws and the judicial system were racist and even many black students thought that I was crazy. These are Libertarian positions, and Ron Paul doesn&#039;t shrink from them even if it might be politically disadvantageous. With Ron Paul you know what you&#039;re getting. Who knows what those other Republican clowns really think? They&#039;ll say anything to get elected. Ron Paul would hold Obama&#039;s feet to the fire a little. Even though I think Obama will get re-elected, with Ron Paul debating him, difficult issues will be discussed in a forthright manner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private property is a big issue with libertarians. That&#8217;s why we can&#8217;t smoke in a restaurant or bar. Because do-gooders control what other people can do on their own private property. Personally, I agree with Ron Paul about restaurants serving who they want, but it sure is stupid to turn away customers. They would probably lose white customers, too. They would lose my patronage. I don&#8217;t want this to be another &#8220;I have black friends&#8221; type thing but I have no problem patronizing minority-owned businesses. Usually I don&#8217;t know who the owner is, race just isn&#8217;t a factor (unless they&#8217;re more likely to carry something that others don&#8217;t). Some of the best officers and NCO&#8217;s that I served with in the military and my favorite boss I worked for in a steel mill were black. My feeling is that having been treated unfairly in the past, they went out of the way to be fair and treated people as individuals.<br />
  Being a longtime big-L Libertarian, in college after the military (during Nancy Reagan&#8217;s &#8220;Just Say No&#8221; campaign) I argued that the drug laws and the judicial system were racist and even many black students thought that I was crazy. These are Libertarian positions, and Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t shrink from them even if it might be politically disadvantageous. With Ron Paul you know what you&#8217;re getting. Who knows what those other Republican clowns really think? They&#8217;ll say anything to get elected. Ron Paul would hold Obama&#8217;s feet to the fire a little. Even though I think Obama will get re-elected, with Ron Paul debating him, difficult issues will be discussed in a forthright manner.</p>
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		By: Will		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The misunderstanding is similar to when people confuse the support of an unmitigated freedom of the press with an explicit endorsement of whats being said or expressed therein. If you believe in the importance of the protection of private property as I do, the solution to eliminating bigotry is not in furthering the power of the state. All of the major freedoms are preserved fundamentally on the existence of private ownership of property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The misunderstanding is similar to when people confuse the support of an unmitigated freedom of the press with an explicit endorsement of whats being said or expressed therein. If you believe in the importance of the protection of private property as I do, the solution to eliminating bigotry is not in furthering the power of the state. All of the major freedoms are preserved fundamentally on the existence of private ownership of property.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 05:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wrong. Ron Paul is definitely not a bigot.
Please put some more thought into what he&#039;s saying. :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong. Ron Paul is definitely not a bigot.<br />
Please put some more thought into what he&#8217;s saying. 🙁</p>
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		By: JD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scotty,
you brought up a really great point. a few years ago, i was heavily involved with the motorcycle riding community. and, there was the &quot;confederation of clubs&quot; which pretty much every state has them. for the most part they do serve a good purpose. we raised alot of money for charity, and got involved with our prospective communities in a positive way. 
but, we had a group of lawyers that would represent various clubs, and or individuals that were denied entrance or service at different establishments. it really ticked me off, to some degree. i had been refused service at various places throughout my time riding. i can say, no black person ever denied me service. infact, i rode cross country a couple of times, and bikers passed me by constantly, and it never failed a black guy would always pull over for me, and asked if he could help me out some how or i could use his phone to make a call. 
but, back to my point. i always felt it was the business owners right to refuse me service. the guys i rode with, became fiercely loyal to the establishments that treated us right, and we inturn would bring more people, and always tipped well. i was never offended by it. i remember one time they wouldnt even let us in at a mexican restaurant, at denny&#039;s  they just didnt come to the table and take our orders. we had tried calling someone to the table and they just acted like we werent even there, we got up and left there too. then at this point we were starving, and found this mom and pop italian restaurant. we had a blast with those people, they happend not to be that busy that day, and ended up eating some great food and have a great time with all the folks what worked there. like you, i dont want to force myself on anyone. someone out there is more than willing to take my money and provide me a service. maybe im wrong, but i believe in the goodness of people, and i feel left to our own devices we will find each other, and inturn be loyal to one another. 
i never supported the idea of suing establishments, for not wanting us around, its their right... i always felt that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotty,<br />
you brought up a really great point. a few years ago, i was heavily involved with the motorcycle riding community. and, there was the &#8220;confederation of clubs&#8221; which pretty much every state has them. for the most part they do serve a good purpose. we raised alot of money for charity, and got involved with our prospective communities in a positive way.<br />
but, we had a group of lawyers that would represent various clubs, and or individuals that were denied entrance or service at different establishments. it really ticked me off, to some degree. i had been refused service at various places throughout my time riding. i can say, no black person ever denied me service. infact, i rode cross country a couple of times, and bikers passed me by constantly, and it never failed a black guy would always pull over for me, and asked if he could help me out some how or i could use his phone to make a call.<br />
but, back to my point. i always felt it was the business owners right to refuse me service. the guys i rode with, became fiercely loyal to the establishments that treated us right, and we inturn would bring more people, and always tipped well. i was never offended by it. i remember one time they wouldnt even let us in at a mexican restaurant, at denny&#8217;s  they just didnt come to the table and take our orders. we had tried calling someone to the table and they just acted like we werent even there, we got up and left there too. then at this point we were starving, and found this mom and pop italian restaurant. we had a blast with those people, they happend not to be that busy that day, and ended up eating some great food and have a great time with all the folks what worked there. like you, i dont want to force myself on anyone. someone out there is more than willing to take my money and provide me a service. maybe im wrong, but i believe in the goodness of people, and i feel left to our own devices we will find each other, and inturn be loyal to one another.<br />
i never supported the idea of suing establishments, for not wanting us around, its their right&#8230; i always felt that way.</p>
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		By: Jim Edwards		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James,

Absolutely wrong.  Read my post, below.  Ron Paul has not objected to the 90% of the Civil Rights Act that solved 100% of the legal segregation.

He has correctly stated that it is completely constitutional, under the 14th Amendment, for the federal government to prevent states from legislating racial inequality.

Given that companies like Woolworth&#039;s were racist because the LAW REQUIRED THEM TO BE RACIST, the solution is to remove the bad laws.  The solution is not to punish all businesses for the next 100 years because Southern Woolworth&#039;s stores complied with bad laws they had no power to change.

There is no need to replace a set of anti-black laws with an anti-business law.  Why don&#039;t we let SOCIETY resolve these problems, instead of GOVERNMENT ?  [Society and government are two VERY different things, you know.  All the libertarians I&#039;ve met are very pro-society.]

You need to open up your mind to possibilities beyond simple choices like:
1. Let&#039;s subsidize labor union bosses and punish businesses, or
2. Let&#039;s subsidize big businesses and use the national guard to attack workers.

How about the government doesn&#039;t target anybody for punishment, or anybody to get special privileges ?  Why don&#039;t we wait for somebody to actually commit an assault, theft, or fraud, before we assume they&#039;re evil ?  How can you pass out &quot;free&quot; goodies to anybody without first taking them from somebody else ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>Absolutely wrong.  Read my post, below.  Ron Paul has not objected to the 90% of the Civil Rights Act that solved 100% of the legal segregation.</p>
<p>He has correctly stated that it is completely constitutional, under the 14th Amendment, for the federal government to prevent states from legislating racial inequality.</p>
<p>Given that companies like Woolworth&#8217;s were racist because the LAW REQUIRED THEM TO BE RACIST, the solution is to remove the bad laws.  The solution is not to punish all businesses for the next 100 years because Southern Woolworth&#8217;s stores complied with bad laws they had no power to change.</p>
<p>There is no need to replace a set of anti-black laws with an anti-business law.  Why don&#8217;t we let SOCIETY resolve these problems, instead of GOVERNMENT ?  [Society and government are two VERY different things, you know.  All the libertarians I&#8217;ve met are very pro-society.]</p>
<p>You need to open up your mind to possibilities beyond simple choices like:<br />
1. Let&#8217;s subsidize labor union bosses and punish businesses, or<br />
2. Let&#8217;s subsidize big businesses and use the national guard to attack workers.</p>
<p>How about the government doesn&#8217;t target anybody for punishment, or anybody to get special privileges ?  Why don&#8217;t we wait for somebody to actually commit an assault, theft, or fraud, before we assume they&#8217;re evil ?  How can you pass out &#8220;free&#8221; goodies to anybody without first taking them from somebody else ?</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Surely the ultimate issue is this: federal action was needed in the 1960s and after, still is, to protect minority rights in certain parts of the country.  Ron Paul argues that this was an unwarranted intrusion on personal freedom because it was against the federal system as he sees it.  So in the name of preserving strict &#039;constitutional liberty&#039;, he disagrees with measures which gave real, tangible liberty to millions of people.

I don&#039;t think Ron Paul is a racist, although as the furore over his newsletters shows he isn&#039;t necessarily shy of associating with people with deeply discriminatory views on race, gender, sexual orientation and so on.  He genuinely, fanatically believes in personal freedom (except when it comes to things like abortion, of course).  But his view of what liberty means is incredibly limited, and the idea that we should smooth other race relations by simply &#039;treating people as individuals&#039; is frankly asinine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the ultimate issue is this: federal action was needed in the 1960s and after, still is, to protect minority rights in certain parts of the country.  Ron Paul argues that this was an unwarranted intrusion on personal freedom because it was against the federal system as he sees it.  So in the name of preserving strict &#8216;constitutional liberty&#8217;, he disagrees with measures which gave real, tangible liberty to millions of people.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Ron Paul is a racist, although as the furore over his newsletters shows he isn&#8217;t necessarily shy of associating with people with deeply discriminatory views on race, gender, sexual orientation and so on.  He genuinely, fanatically believes in personal freedom (except when it comes to things like abortion, of course).  But his view of what liberty means is incredibly limited, and the idea that we should smooth other race relations by simply &#8216;treating people as individuals&#8217; is frankly asinine.</p>
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		By: Scotty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ron Paul’s oft times uttered quip that private business owners have an absolute right to decide what to do with their own property; to make his point that it is legally wrong to tell private business owners what they can do with their business is laughable.&quot; 

I also find it laughable but sadly pathetic that black people would want to beat down the doors of a business that does not want their business to take their money. Instead of blacks fighting to integrate the lunch counter at Woolworths, perhaps they should have stopped shopping there all together or perhaps pooled their economic pwoer and started their own black owned department store. I mean really, what is the point of all these &quot;buy black&quot; campaigns we see today if we want to shop were they have policies we do not agree with?

&quot;Local, state and the federal government tell businesses what to do all the time. They compel businesses to pay state and federal taxes, business taxes, adhere to environmental, building, and safety codes and regulations, have liability and workers compensation insurance, file employee tax reports, and corporate filing reports, and publish a DBA notice.&quot; 

Correct me if I am wrong but isn&#039;t Paul against most of these things? Just because the govt is compelling us to do things do not make them right. But of course, most people lack the courage to change the status quo even if they disagree with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ron Paul’s oft times uttered quip that private business owners have an absolute right to decide what to do with their own property; to make his point that it is legally wrong to tell private business owners what they can do with their business is laughable.&#8221; </p>
<p>I also find it laughable but sadly pathetic that black people would want to beat down the doors of a business that does not want their business to take their money. Instead of blacks fighting to integrate the lunch counter at Woolworths, perhaps they should have stopped shopping there all together or perhaps pooled their economic pwoer and started their own black owned department store. I mean really, what is the point of all these &#8220;buy black&#8221; campaigns we see today if we want to shop were they have policies we do not agree with?</p>
<p>&#8220;Local, state and the federal government tell businesses what to do all the time. They compel businesses to pay state and federal taxes, business taxes, adhere to environmental, building, and safety codes and regulations, have liability and workers compensation insurance, file employee tax reports, and corporate filing reports, and publish a DBA notice.&#8221; </p>
<p>Correct me if I am wrong but isn&#8217;t Paul against most of these things? Just because the govt is compelling us to do things do not make them right. But of course, most people lack the courage to change the status quo even if they disagree with it.</p>
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		By: William Patton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Patton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry you feel this way about Ron Paul. But your feelings about him won&#039;t change his feelings about you, that you&#039;re an individual not a color. That you should be treated as a human being, with the rights inherently belonging to all human beings, rather than be treated as a member of a group. This is why he opposed the Civil Rights Act. Because it labels and divides people into groups.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry you feel this way about Ron Paul. But your feelings about him won&#8217;t change his feelings about you, that you&#8217;re an individual not a color. That you should be treated as a human being, with the rights inherently belonging to all human beings, rather than be treated as a member of a group. This is why he opposed the Civil Rights Act. Because it labels and divides people into groups.</p>
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		By: chmst1999		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are we to assume from your article that you believe all federal laws are just? How about the drug laws? Do they fairly target minorities? What about the gun laws? Do you believe it is agreeable for urban populations to have less access to self defense than rural citizens? Do urban populations have less need for property protection than rural citizens?

What about the Fugitive Slave Laws? Should those have been supported? Ron Paul is the only candidate who can articulate a states&#039; rights position that was actually used to fight the Fugitive Slave Laws (nullification). Would you oppose this position as well, because it is a states&#039; rights position? Be careful here, because if you oppose Dr. Paul&#039;s position on this issue, then you support the recapture and transfer of freed slaves in the north back to their &quot;owners&quot; in the south.

The property rights argument is also a racial issue. Look at what happened around Columbia University (a private university) from 2003-2007. The university purposefully allowed their buildings to become rundown in order to devalue the property. Then, they petitioned the local government to allow the University to take over the private property in the area because of &quot;urban blight&quot;. The private properties, including low-income housing projects, were transferred to the private university. This is clearly unconstitutional, and yet was allowed to occur because of a gross misapplication of the principle of property rights. Still another example is the Kelo Supreme Court case. In that case, people&#039;s homes were taken from them and the land was given to the private company Pfizer.

Once the government is allowed to tell a private individual what he/she is allowed to do on his/her private property, it is only a small step to the actual confiscation of that property. Notice in the above examples that the properties weren&#039;t even transferred to the public, but rather to other private individuals. A strong property rights position protects the individuals from these unconstitutional property confiscations. 

Please study the concept of property rights in more detail before dismissing Dr. Paul&#039;s position. His voting record clearly supports minorities&#039; rights, and his property rights position is no different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we to assume from your article that you believe all federal laws are just? How about the drug laws? Do they fairly target minorities? What about the gun laws? Do you believe it is agreeable for urban populations to have less access to self defense than rural citizens? Do urban populations have less need for property protection than rural citizens?</p>
<p>What about the Fugitive Slave Laws? Should those have been supported? Ron Paul is the only candidate who can articulate a states&#8217; rights position that was actually used to fight the Fugitive Slave Laws (nullification). Would you oppose this position as well, because it is a states&#8217; rights position? Be careful here, because if you oppose Dr. Paul&#8217;s position on this issue, then you support the recapture and transfer of freed slaves in the north back to their &#8220;owners&#8221; in the south.</p>
<p>The property rights argument is also a racial issue. Look at what happened around Columbia University (a private university) from 2003-2007. The university purposefully allowed their buildings to become rundown in order to devalue the property. Then, they petitioned the local government to allow the University to take over the private property in the area because of &#8220;urban blight&#8221;. The private properties, including low-income housing projects, were transferred to the private university. This is clearly unconstitutional, and yet was allowed to occur because of a gross misapplication of the principle of property rights. Still another example is the Kelo Supreme Court case. In that case, people&#8217;s homes were taken from them and the land was given to the private company Pfizer.</p>
<p>Once the government is allowed to tell a private individual what he/she is allowed to do on his/her private property, it is only a small step to the actual confiscation of that property. Notice in the above examples that the properties weren&#8217;t even transferred to the public, but rather to other private individuals. A strong property rights position protects the individuals from these unconstitutional property confiscations. </p>
<p>Please study the concept of property rights in more detail before dismissing Dr. Paul&#8217;s position. His voting record clearly supports minorities&#8217; rights, and his property rights position is no different.</p>
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