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		By: OneThatGotAway		</title>
		<link>https://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/comment-page-2/#comment-284845</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[No Jay Henry, Black men DO understand their purpose in churches; but they avoid the hypocrisy, hating, and hoeing that Mack &#038; Ramses commented earlier. These pastors allowed worldly women to ignore the Holy Bible and pursue their worldly lust for whoring after preachers and deacons, men-bashing, effeminizing their boys, and flaunting their bodies towards any dog in the building. 
The majority abhor the teachings of Jesus Christ and only give it lip service with NO walk in his ways. “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor HONOSEXUALS, nor sodomites” (1st Corinthians 6:9). The LOVE of God is to hate evil and avoid those who refuse to REPENT.  And real black men avoid churches that allow this wickedness in churches.  This is how you love God according to Matthew 22:37-40 by hating and calling out evil like sodomy and fornication!  True TITHING helps the entire church members and their COMMUNITIES!!!  The bible teaches us why we should tithe. Any tithing that helps only 10% of the church members like the pastor salary and board of directors are to be AVOIDED!!!  If there are no schools then avoid tithing until there is one for the next 50 years. Avoid any other ministry if they do not have private schools, which is the foundation for black communities.  Malachi 3 is talking about priests who STEALS tithe from GOD, not the church!  God commands us to come to not just any church but a HOLY church per Hebrews 10:25. MOST Churches in the world today are UNHOLY !!!  If you cannot find a Holy Church to attend then stay at home and do bible fellowship over the Internet via live social media like YouTube or Facebook. Save your money and dignity from the whoring preachers and their hypocritical bitches in churches. Ever wonder why so-called Christians do not seek black men to attend their churches?  More whores for the preachers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Jay Henry, Black men DO understand their purpose in churches; but they avoid the hypocrisy, hating, and hoeing that Mack &amp; Ramses commented earlier. These pastors allowed worldly women to ignore the Holy Bible and pursue their worldly lust for whoring after preachers and deacons, men-bashing, effeminizing their boys, and flaunting their bodies towards any dog in the building.<br />
The majority abhor the teachings of Jesus Christ and only give it lip service with NO walk in his ways. “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor HONOSEXUALS, nor sodomites” (1st Corinthians 6:9). The LOVE of God is to hate evil and avoid those who refuse to REPENT.  And real black men avoid churches that allow this wickedness in churches.  This is how you love God according to Matthew 22:37-40 by hating and calling out evil like sodomy and fornication!  True TITHING helps the entire church members and their COMMUNITIES!!!  The bible teaches us why we should tithe. Any tithing that helps only 10% of the church members like the pastor salary and board of directors are to be AVOIDED!!!  If there are no schools then avoid tithing until there is one for the next 50 years. Avoid any other ministry if they do not have private schools, which is the foundation for black communities.  Malachi 3 is talking about priests who STEALS tithe from GOD, not the church!  God commands us to come to not just any church but a HOLY church per Hebrews 10:25. MOST Churches in the world today are UNHOLY !!!  If you cannot find a Holy Church to attend then stay at home and do bible fellowship over the Internet via live social media like YouTube or Facebook. Save your money and dignity from the whoring preachers and their hypocritical bitches in churches. Ever wonder why so-called Christians do not seek black men to attend their churches?  More whores for the preachers!</p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 21:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I am an atheist and very a very proud and happy at that. More Black men and women are joining our ranks. Most of them,like me, used to be believers. I&#039;ll be more than happy to catch the ones who slip through the cracks.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am an atheist and very a very proud and happy at that. More Black men and women are joining our ranks. Most of them,like me, used to be believers. I&#8217;ll be more than happy to catch the ones who slip through the cracks.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cassandra Mcknight		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are wrong. Your message is totally wrong. The church is for religion not making boys to men. That&#039;s his father&#039;s job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are wrong. Your message is totally wrong. The church is for religion not making boys to men. That&#8217;s his father&#8217;s job.</p>
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		By: Jay Henry		</title>
		<link>https://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/comment-page-2/#comment-208743</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jdgwisd I understand what you are trying to say and respect your view.  The bible teaches us these things that I mention in my previous post.  It&#039;s not for me to debate the scriptures because they are already laid out.  The Word of God is there for our instruction.  We as believers can&#039;t pick and choose which parts we want to follow and when.  The issue remains that we as men (more importantly black men) have a tremendous responsibility and not all of us are doing our part.  God has put a mandate on men to be the head.  That&#039;s why Adam was created first.  All of the issues in the article are valid and true but we have a responsibility to correct them as men of God.  We have to take our rightful place and keep all of God&#039;s commandments to the best of our ability not just the ones that are the easiest.  Appreciate the feedback.  God bless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jdgwisd I understand what you are trying to say and respect your view.  The bible teaches us these things that I mention in my previous post.  It&#8217;s not for me to debate the scriptures because they are already laid out.  The Word of God is there for our instruction.  We as believers can&#8217;t pick and choose which parts we want to follow and when.  The issue remains that we as men (more importantly black men) have a tremendous responsibility and not all of us are doing our part.  God has put a mandate on men to be the head.  That&#8217;s why Adam was created first.  All of the issues in the article are valid and true but we have a responsibility to correct them as men of God.  We have to take our rightful place and keep all of God&#8217;s commandments to the best of our ability not just the ones that are the easiest.  Appreciate the feedback.  God bless.</p>
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		By: jdgwisd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jay, I have to respectfully disagree with you on two fronts:  The &quot;tithing&quot; component of religious worship as well as the aspect of commanding one to church.  Please let me qualify what I&#039;m about to say by saying I understand there are people in our society who are deeply spiritual, but not religious.  And there are the deeply (churchgoers), but not necessarily spiritual. I don&#039;t usually discuss faith, but it just goes to show you how some people can be misguided in their viewpoint.  If you read Chapter 2 and 3 of Malachi, it was Malachi&#039;s intent for the PRIESTS to make the tithes available to the people, since they were abusing their authority to become wealthy at the people&#039;s expense. Not for the people to solely give. As for attending church........The 70th saying of the Gospel of Thomas encourages us to look within for our salvation:  Jesus said  &quot;If you give rise to what is in you, what is in you will save you.  If you don&#039;t give rise to what is in you, what is not within you will destroy you.&quot;  The black Christian church was an institution that allowed many generations the ability to stand as human beings in a society geared towards dehumanizing them.  In the present generation, the church has become an fossilized institution that condones many things that past generations found offensive.  It is with little wonder there are those like brother Mack who are calling things as they see them.  You may not like what he says, but he is right in expressing his viewpoint.  Mack is wrong in thinking this institution can change.  Like the priests in Malachi, the convicts have convinced the inmates that they are the last word in God&#039;s Kingdom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I have to respectfully disagree with you on two fronts:  The &#8220;tithing&#8221; component of religious worship as well as the aspect of commanding one to church.  Please let me qualify what I&#8217;m about to say by saying I understand there are people in our society who are deeply spiritual, but not religious.  And there are the deeply (churchgoers), but not necessarily spiritual. I don&#8217;t usually discuss faith, but it just goes to show you how some people can be misguided in their viewpoint.  If you read Chapter 2 and 3 of Malachi, it was Malachi&#8217;s intent for the PRIESTS to make the tithes available to the people, since they were abusing their authority to become wealthy at the people&#8217;s expense. Not for the people to solely give. As for attending church&#8230;&#8230;..The 70th saying of the Gospel of Thomas encourages us to look within for our salvation:  Jesus said  &#8220;If you give rise to what is in you, what is in you will save you.  If you don&#8217;t give rise to what is in you, what is not within you will destroy you.&#8221;  The black Christian church was an institution that allowed many generations the ability to stand as human beings in a society geared towards dehumanizing them.  In the present generation, the church has become an fossilized institution that condones many things that past generations found offensive.  It is with little wonder there are those like brother Mack who are calling things as they see them.  You may not like what he says, but he is right in expressing his viewpoint.  Mack is wrong in thinking this institution can change.  Like the priests in Malachi, the convicts have convinced the inmates that they are the last word in God&#8217;s Kingdom.</p>
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		By: Jay Henry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Black men don&#039;t go to church because they don&#039;t understand their purpose.  Church has nothing to do with anyone else.  It is for the individual to deal with their issues through the teachings of Jesus Christ.  So when you refer to gays remember How Jesus dealt with sinners.  The bible teaches us to love.  This is the most important commandment in the bible as Jesus teaches us in Matthew 22:37-40.  The bible teaches us why we should tithe.  It has nothing to do with the preacher.  The church is sustained by the tithes and offerings.  The church has bills.  The bible clearly commands us to tithe Malachi 3:10.  There is a mandate on each and everyone of us from God to come to church.  The bible commands us to come to church Hebrews 10:25.  You have a platform to reach many people and possibly change lives.  Please use it to build up the house of God not tear it down.  If you are going to post an article about the church please use scripture to support YOUR view.  The bible clearly contradicts every thing that you are saying in how WE should conduct OURSELVES as Christians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black men don&#8217;t go to church because they don&#8217;t understand their purpose.  Church has nothing to do with anyone else.  It is for the individual to deal with their issues through the teachings of Jesus Christ.  So when you refer to gays remember How Jesus dealt with sinners.  The bible teaches us to love.  This is the most important commandment in the bible as Jesus teaches us in Matthew 22:37-40.  The bible teaches us why we should tithe.  It has nothing to do with the preacher.  The church is sustained by the tithes and offerings.  The church has bills.  The bible clearly commands us to tithe Malachi 3:10.  There is a mandate on each and everyone of us from God to come to church.  The bible commands us to come to church Hebrews 10:25.  You have a platform to reach many people and possibly change lives.  Please use it to build up the house of God not tear it down.  If you are going to post an article about the church please use scripture to support YOUR view.  The bible clearly contradicts every thing that you are saying in how WE should conduct OURSELVES as Christians.</p>
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		By: My Experiences With Religion &#124; The Thoughts Of A Man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Why I&#8217;m Not A Christian Anymore &#124; Black And Nerdy!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why I&#8217;m Not A Christian Anymore &#124; Black And Nerdy!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Black and Not Religious &#124; Black And Nerdy!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Black and Not Religious &#124; Black And Nerdy!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Deeann D. Mathews		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeann D. Mathews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose I am forever going to be a contrarian...

Black men DO go to church!  Two things have to be immediately added, though:

1. They go to churches where there is more going on than just Sunday Morning standard

2. They go to churches where the Biblical definition of the Church -- big C -- is understood and equipped for, where Church is understood as what you carry with you when you handle your business outside of the building.  

I have recently observed something every interesting; a church that has a strong something-or-other during the week (or, a strong Sunday School) will have men who attend that, and then, given enough time, may trickle back into Sunday morning service.  It is amazing the number of Christian men I run into who either attend faithfully on the margins -- that is, they may not do Sunday morning but you&#039;ll find them in services and activities timed right to eliminate most of the drama-starters -- or, after some time of being fortified on those margins, then slowly begin showing up on Sunday morning standard.  And then there is no counting the number of Christian men who do Sunday morning standard but wouldn&#039;t if they weren&#039;t also sustained by the extra occasions.  Nor are these men confined to one building; I find them doing the same thing I do: getting out into other buildings where REAL church is going on at times when the folks who are coming for drama won&#039;t sacrifice to attend.  

I also observe: in a local church where there is strong teaching about what being in the Church -- big C, Biblical definition -- means in terms of the character of one&#039;s daily walk, one will find men and their families attending at whatever time that teaching is going on.  There are a few Black churches in San Francisco that, in spite of the demographic challenges in terms of Black people leaving the city, are still attracting two-parent (or two-grandparent) families with children for that reason, and if that is happening in San Francisco, it is probably going on elsewhere as well.  It is never going to get air time, as these churches tend not to be big-shot churches, but it IS happening.

Black men DO go to church... but they don&#039;t do drama when they can avoid it.  I was talking last night with a young Christian brotha who was quizzing me about a multi-church ministry that goes on year after year in these parts run by some STRONG brothas who are deacons and laymen.  He has noticed the way I talk about the excellence of the ministry, and the standards the brothas maintain for participation ... now he wants to check it out.  My suspicion is that there are a large number of Christian Black men who want to have some REAL church, and they are not finding it on Sunday at 11.  But they are looking, and they are finding.  &quot;Seek and ye shall find,&quot; the Lord promised, and He keeps His promises to His people.  He is not hampered by the messes that are going on in some Sunday at 11 situations, and neither are the Christian brothas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I am forever going to be a contrarian&#8230;</p>
<p>Black men DO go to church!  Two things have to be immediately added, though:</p>
<p>1. They go to churches where there is more going on than just Sunday Morning standard</p>
<p>2. They go to churches where the Biblical definition of the Church &#8212; big C &#8212; is understood and equipped for, where Church is understood as what you carry with you when you handle your business outside of the building.  </p>
<p>I have recently observed something every interesting; a church that has a strong something-or-other during the week (or, a strong Sunday School) will have men who attend that, and then, given enough time, may trickle back into Sunday morning service.  It is amazing the number of Christian men I run into who either attend faithfully on the margins &#8212; that is, they may not do Sunday morning but you&#8217;ll find them in services and activities timed right to eliminate most of the drama-starters &#8212; or, after some time of being fortified on those margins, then slowly begin showing up on Sunday morning standard.  And then there is no counting the number of Christian men who do Sunday morning standard but wouldn&#8217;t if they weren&#8217;t also sustained by the extra occasions.  Nor are these men confined to one building; I find them doing the same thing I do: getting out into other buildings where REAL church is going on at times when the folks who are coming for drama won&#8217;t sacrifice to attend.  </p>
<p>I also observe: in a local church where there is strong teaching about what being in the Church &#8212; big C, Biblical definition &#8212; means in terms of the character of one&#8217;s daily walk, one will find men and their families attending at whatever time that teaching is going on.  There are a few Black churches in San Francisco that, in spite of the demographic challenges in terms of Black people leaving the city, are still attracting two-parent (or two-grandparent) families with children for that reason, and if that is happening in San Francisco, it is probably going on elsewhere as well.  It is never going to get air time, as these churches tend not to be big-shot churches, but it IS happening.</p>
<p>Black men DO go to church&#8230; but they don&#8217;t do drama when they can avoid it.  I was talking last night with a young Christian brotha who was quizzing me about a multi-church ministry that goes on year after year in these parts run by some STRONG brothas who are deacons and laymen.  He has noticed the way I talk about the excellence of the ministry, and the standards the brothas maintain for participation &#8230; now he wants to check it out.  My suspicion is that there are a large number of Christian Black men who want to have some REAL church, and they are not finding it on Sunday at 11.  But they are looking, and they are finding.  &#8220;Seek and ye shall find,&#8221; the Lord promised, and He keeps His promises to His people.  He is not hampered by the messes that are going on in some Sunday at 11 situations, and neither are the Christian brothas.</p>
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