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		By: Doug Allen		</title>
		<link>https://thyblackman.com/2011/10/25/black-america-is-self-destructing/comment-page-1/#comment-16146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can not hire black males anymore.  What has happened?  We used to get great black tradesmen on our jobsites.  They were the best Masons and Carpenters.  Now, I can not get black men who are hard working and steady.  Shame.  My grandfather always told me the black carpenters and masons were the best.  They worked hard and had &quot;the eye.&quot;  Not anymore.  The men I see now are sullen and always trying to work a hustle.  If I hire them, they will sue me for something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not hire black males anymore.  What has happened?  We used to get great black tradesmen on our jobsites.  They were the best Masons and Carpenters.  Now, I can not get black men who are hard working and steady.  Shame.  My grandfather always told me the black carpenters and masons were the best.  They worked hard and had &#8220;the eye.&#8221;  Not anymore.  The men I see now are sullen and always trying to work a hustle.  If I hire them, they will sue me for something.</p>
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		By: @2think55		</title>
		<link>https://thyblackman.com/2011/10/25/black-america-is-self-destructing/comment-page-1/#comment-14521</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;They even lambast Blacks who, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, find themselves at the very bottom of our society.&quot;

Until we each, as adults, individually take responsibility for ourselves we will be stuck in the codependent triangle of persecutor, victim, rescuer ... all coming from the neurotic need to control others through our victimhood, through rescuing (the left), through persecution (the man). Enough already. The two giggling black women who were rejoicing when Obama was elected because now they would get Obama money are part of the problem, not part of the solution. There IS NO OBAMA MONEY! If you work and pay taxes, it is YOUR MONEY! Start educating your brothers and sisters.

I graduated from an &quot;integrated&quot; Catholic girls high school in downtown Los Angeles in 1960 when white consciousness was being raised about the immorality of racism. There was no welfare state. None of us were &quot;rich&quot; ... all our families were one paycheck away from not eating. We didn&#039;t think we were poor, either. We didn&#039;t think we were victims. We were expected to succeed or fail on our own merits. The straight A students were black, hispanic, asian, white. The class officers were black, hispanic, asian, white. An equal number of blacks, hispanics, asians, and whites went on to college. Can I tell you how lucky I feel that I was born and raised before the mentality of entitlement took hold and ABSOLUTELY RUINED the civil rights movement.

Let&#039;s teach the next generation to stop expecting someone else to fish for them. Let&#039;s teach them to fish for themselves. Stop the insanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They even lambast Blacks who, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, find themselves at the very bottom of our society.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until we each, as adults, individually take responsibility for ourselves we will be stuck in the codependent triangle of persecutor, victim, rescuer &#8230; all coming from the neurotic need to control others through our victimhood, through rescuing (the left), through persecution (the man). Enough already. The two giggling black women who were rejoicing when Obama was elected because now they would get Obama money are part of the problem, not part of the solution. There IS NO OBAMA MONEY! If you work and pay taxes, it is YOUR MONEY! Start educating your brothers and sisters.</p>
<p>I graduated from an &#8220;integrated&#8221; Catholic girls high school in downtown Los Angeles in 1960 when white consciousness was being raised about the immorality of racism. There was no welfare state. None of us were &#8220;rich&#8221; &#8230; all our families were one paycheck away from not eating. We didn&#8217;t think we were poor, either. We didn&#8217;t think we were victims. We were expected to succeed or fail on our own merits. The straight A students were black, hispanic, asian, white. The class officers were black, hispanic, asian, white. An equal number of blacks, hispanics, asians, and whites went on to college. Can I tell you how lucky I feel that I was born and raised before the mentality of entitlement took hold and ABSOLUTELY RUINED the civil rights movement.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s teach the next generation to stop expecting someone else to fish for them. Let&#8217;s teach them to fish for themselves. Stop the insanity.</p>
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		By: DG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI we had a civil war that killed quite a few people in this country over &#039;disagreements&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI we had a civil war that killed quite a few people in this country over &#8216;disagreements&#8217;</p>
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		By: TG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These are only my thoughts and I speak from the &quot;conservative&quot; side of things. I am not a confrontational person, but this issue reaches much further then black on black. It is infighting on all levels in American Society and to label it just as a black thing is wrong in my personal opinion. Here is what I wrote and like I said I speak for myself and no one else. This is my blog article I wrote last night. http://allenwestrepublic.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/throwing-them-all-under-the-bus-the-division-of-the-united-states-of-america-by-tanya-grimsley/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are only my thoughts and I speak from the &#8220;conservative&#8221; side of things. I am not a confrontational person, but this issue reaches much further then black on black. It is infighting on all levels in American Society and to label it just as a black thing is wrong in my personal opinion. Here is what I wrote and like I said I speak for myself and no one else. This is my blog article I wrote last night. <a href="http://allenwestrepublic.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/throwing-them-all-under-the-bus-the-division-of-the-united-states-of-america-by-tanya-grimsley/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://allenwestrepublic.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/throwing-them-all-under-the-bus-the-division-of-the-united-states-of-america-by-tanya-grimsley/</a></p>
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		By: DG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;From my vantage point, both historically and on a contemporary basis, we are imploding. So much so that outsiders have no need to concede to any of our demands for parity. Societies fall from internal strife, and if our current actions continue, Black folks in America will succumb to the same fate.&quot; - James

One final point. James Madison, one of the founders of the constitution was the leader in creating the three party system, and the bicameral system of congress precisely because of CONFLICT. Debate on the process of law lead to incremental change, which stabilized the government. 

Mr. Clingman, if your assertion above is true, then whites would have self-destructed long ago. Have you seen the live debates in Britain, where those guys go back and forth like it is a snapping contest in the hood? 

How about the historical debate in this country between the right and the left, between labor and management. 

Conflict is inherent in any group that has a diverse way of viewing the world. We are no exception. 

We hate it when we are lumped all into one group, yet when we have strong and intelligent disagreements people scream &quot;The sky is falling for black folks, they disagree!!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From my vantage point, both historically and on a contemporary basis, we are imploding. So much so that outsiders have no need to concede to any of our demands for parity. Societies fall from internal strife, and if our current actions continue, Black folks in America will succumb to the same fate.&#8221; &#8211; James</p>
<p>One final point. James Madison, one of the founders of the constitution was the leader in creating the three party system, and the bicameral system of congress precisely because of CONFLICT. Debate on the process of law lead to incremental change, which stabilized the government. </p>
<p>Mr. Clingman, if your assertion above is true, then whites would have self-destructed long ago. Have you seen the live debates in Britain, where those guys go back and forth like it is a snapping contest in the hood? </p>
<p>How about the historical debate in this country between the right and the left, between labor and management. </p>
<p>Conflict is inherent in any group that has a diverse way of viewing the world. We are no exception. </p>
<p>We hate it when we are lumped all into one group, yet when we have strong and intelligent disagreements people scream &#8220;The sky is falling for black folks, they disagree!!&#8221;</p>
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		By: DG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I absolutely DISAGREE James. 

1st we have been on the bottom of every statistical category since we were brought over. So nothing new, you can&#039;t use the current situation to define that. 

2nd we have never been a single minded group ever.  We now just have the capacity to have our disagreement more visual. I have no problem with that.

I don&#039;t mind rabid disagreement. That is what democracy is for. To assume that somehow being a single minded group is the best for us is dumb. Innovation occurs through competition, conflict, AND collaboration, not just collaboration. 

The question for each of these different groups of that disagree is this, do their critiques and ideologies have merit?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely DISAGREE James. </p>
<p>1st we have been on the bottom of every statistical category since we were brought over. So nothing new, you can&#8217;t use the current situation to define that. </p>
<p>2nd we have never been a single minded group ever.  We now just have the capacity to have our disagreement more visual. I have no problem with that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind rabid disagreement. That is what democracy is for. To assume that somehow being a single minded group is the best for us is dumb. Innovation occurs through competition, conflict, AND collaboration, not just collaboration. </p>
<p>The question for each of these different groups of that disagree is this, do their critiques and ideologies have merit?</p>
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		By: natalie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natalie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At paula...there are many that would suggest that females have become the &quot; new man&quot; as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At paula&#8230;there are many that would suggest that females have become the &#8221; new man&#8221; as well.</p>
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		By: liquidify		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liquidify]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it is very important to understand the role that government plays in this.  

The government has set in place a system of generational poverty through its welfare programs which are inhabited mostly by black people.  

When people grow up in government homes and get their money from the government, they have little incentive to be creative and work to better themselves.  Then they lose track of their identity and lose all drive to make a difference in the world.

It is time to start asking your politicians to scale these social welfare systems back to levels where only those who can&#039;t work because of some kinda of disability can get on them.  Then you will start seeing the power of black America again.  Barack Obama has actually been one of the worst presidents for black people as he has scaled up the massive amount of welfare which goes to poor people who for the most part don&#039;t need it. 

Understand these welfare systems are a form of slavery.  They call it generational poverty because once you get into the system, you will stay there, and so will your kids, and possibly their kids unless the country goes so broke we can&#039;t pay for the programs.

Its time for a Ron Paul who wants to reduce the size of government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is very important to understand the role that government plays in this.  </p>
<p>The government has set in place a system of generational poverty through its welfare programs which are inhabited mostly by black people.  </p>
<p>When people grow up in government homes and get their money from the government, they have little incentive to be creative and work to better themselves.  Then they lose track of their identity and lose all drive to make a difference in the world.</p>
<p>It is time to start asking your politicians to scale these social welfare systems back to levels where only those who can&#8217;t work because of some kinda of disability can get on them.  Then you will start seeing the power of black America again.  Barack Obama has actually been one of the worst presidents for black people as he has scaled up the massive amount of welfare which goes to poor people who for the most part don&#8217;t need it. </p>
<p>Understand these welfare systems are a form of slavery.  They call it generational poverty because once you get into the system, you will stay there, and so will your kids, and possibly their kids unless the country goes so broke we can&#8217;t pay for the programs.</p>
<p>Its time for a Ron Paul who wants to reduce the size of government.</p>
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		By: Paula E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speak My Brother,
We as a people are the most self-destructing race in the world. When did it start? What happened? Was it when we were warring tribes in Africa? When we sold our enemies to the Portuguese and Anglo that we hated ourselves so much? Or when we they were beating our language out of us into submission; that this self hatetred is still engrained in our culture today? The whole world has a negitive image of Black People never standing together. Time after time we(Black People) I Miss the Black Male; He has turned into the New woman. They are sitting back laughing at us while we implode.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak My Brother,<br />
We as a people are the most self-destructing race in the world. When did it start? What happened? Was it when we were warring tribes in Africa? When we sold our enemies to the Portuguese and Anglo that we hated ourselves so much? Or when we they were beating our language out of us into submission; that this self hatetred is still engrained in our culture today? The whole world has a negitive image of Black People never standing together. Time after time we(Black People) I Miss the Black Male; He has turned into the New woman. They are sitting back laughing at us while we implode.</p>
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		By: Bryneen Gary		</title>
		<link>https://thyblackman.com/2011/10/25/black-america-is-self-destructing/comment-page-1/#comment-12456</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryneen Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Black America may need to Spread more Love and decrease silence]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black America may need to Spread more Love and decrease silence</p>
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