Comments on: Net Worth, Build Yours Today…

By: Ramses

Ramses — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:57:10 +0000

@Steph the Church was used (people like Martin Luther King) to advance Integration. He was at the forefront but it made since and here’s why. They said at one time blacks had billions of acres of land, most notably in the south. That was tremendous power!!! So what plan could get them to give it up? A plan that made it seem like white people were accepting them into the fold like integration. However you needed something to divide the men and women and that plan was Feminism. It was a two-pronged effect. By keeping men ad women from working together (which meant not pooling their resources together) it made it economically harder to keep the assets we had built up. We moved into the cities and whites moved into suburbs and rural areas we once occupied. Segregation still happened, just under different guises (homeowner’s associations, raised prices effectively outpricing black people out of markets, or just outright refusing to sell to black people in certain neigborhoods). Within 60 years, a lot of the wealth our ancestors had accumulated has slowly deteriorated. Now we see the futility of this endeavor. MLK was even payed for the march on washington (800,000 split between him an a few others). It was gimmick. Now whether he knew it was gimmick it remains to be seen and i don’t put the blame squarely on his shoulders because we need to stop looking for Messiahs as the answers and start reading for ourselves so when one of our own or anyone attempts to get us to take a position on a policy, especially concerning economics, we need to be intelligent enough to make informed decisions instead of emotional ones. Integration was an emotional decision. Unfortunately Martin saw the era of his ways too late (he and Malcolm had begun to work back channels in order to find common ground). Now here we are: a broken people who ae like leaves in the wind, going whichever direction the wind blows. Reactive instead of proactive. Everytime something happens in the media we think it’s racist we’re on it like a pitbull. But we never put our money where our mouth is. Black people were even scared to boycott the bus system back in the day. I’m not with that ponk shit in 2012 in terms of unity. Like Outkast said in the song with Goodie Mobb “You’ll Scared.” Men who have a problem with what I say get mad. Why? Because the bitch in them gets offended (and it’s a black bitch). Women get mad too. Why? Because the bitch in them won’t allow them to respect it. I say real shit. Not that sugar coated shit. I’m in Barnes and Nobles now and I see black people laying on the couches sleeping all the time because they have no homes to go to. When I go to the libraries, I see people sleeping in the libraries because hey have nowhere else to go to.

By: Steph

Steph — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:26:43 +0000

Ramses,

I love your brilliant comment. Please elaborate more on your statement:

“the very church that we like to claim on here that is so great was the major tool the govt used to convince our people to give up their power and black people fell for it.”

I know that the Black money that our people give to the church ends up in White banks and it gives them $60 billion dollars per year!!!

You have a lot of knowledge brother! You need to write a book!

By: Steph

Steph — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:15:50 +0000

Thanks for your information Sankofa. I have a book to recommend which is a Marshall Plan or New Deal for Black America on a macroeconomic level: Powernomics by Dr. Claud Anderson. You can also watch his speeches on YouTube.

By: Steph

Steph — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:12:31 +0000

Thanks Mack for the information but as I wrote I believe that real estate is risky.

By: sankofa

sankofa — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:25:21 +0000

@Ramses….”…would love for people to just experiment in their own families and start asking their family members to start investing in things. See how much rejection you experience….”

I gave my ex a book and five little pouches to teach my son about learning the value of money,saving and budgeting and she promptly placed it in the back of the book shelf. I spoke to her about practicing the 10 percent rule,she accuse me of wanting to hide money from her…wtf?

“…But these same relatives will go play the lottery and waste money instead of investing in real estate, stocks and bonds, insurance….”

Hell I remember a young cat I knew in the old neighborhood who wanted me to help him rent a place for a weekend party, who walk away when I tried to teach him the value of Buying property and running a legitimate business. He was a street corner hustler and could have put the money in, but didn’t see the value of long term decision. My co-workers, some who are single mothers working two jobs, spend so much money on lotto it boggles the mind, yet they have to hustle to make ends meet, even with two jobs. Can we say priority?

It’s not that we as a people lack skills, discipline or work ethics. What we lack is self love and faith in doing things for ourselves. I work in government and most of the heavy lifters, people who do the real work are not Yurugu, they are Africans or some other ethnic group. Yet we are the only ones that refuse to have a plan B, because we don’t trust each other. I would rather deal with an unskilled but motivated person than an educated blow hard who is afraid to leave their “White daddy’s” house and build for themselves.

By: Ramses

Ramses — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:43:25 +0000

Yeah@ Sankofa I try to teach black people to really research Integration, who advanced it, who backed those who advanced it, and then they will get a clearer understanding of what tragic mistake collectively they made. Notice when they decided to integrate, it was not because of a human reason. It was based on the commerce clause in the Constitution. It had nothing to do with them finally accepting black people into the fold. When blacks chose integration, they chose dependency. Plain and simple and if that is what you choose as a collective, then you have no room to complaint about what govt hasn’t done for you because you have abdicated your responsibilities as a collective to rely on self (Garvey’s fight was about self reliance). The reason why Jew can work together is because they have a culture in which they reinforce their notion (and it is just a notion) of who they are through their own schooling system. How can you think positively about yourself when the only thing you know about your history is that your people were enslaved? Some people don’t know that they had ancestors enslaving!!! Lol. And black people perpetuate this negative experience all the time. Every article on here is slavery this slavery that. Talk about Egypt for once. Talk about Moors for once. The best thing I ever did was go to the King Tut exhibit a few years back. Seeing our culture on display made me say to myself that I would never support anything that shows us getting beat down. I’m sick of that. I’m sick of the pity party. You would think slavery happened yesterday. Black people are the main culprits behind their decline from the era of Black Wallstreet til now. The very church that we like to claim on here that is so great was the major tool the govt used to convince our people to give up their power and black people fell for it. Even Martin had to wake up (although it was too late) and see that the integration piece was the wrong move. Blacks need to go back to learning skilled labor again in my opinion. From there you can learn skills that can allow you to go into business for yourself. However, too many are comfortable in “Massa’s” corporations and fear leaving his side. And this is primarily the reason why they are not moving forward while in two generations, Indians are franchising subways and Dairy Queens and steamrolling the very blacks who complain about foreigners taking their stuff (just like some of their white counterparts). I would love for people to just experiment in their own families and start asking their family members to start investing in things. See how much rejection you experience. But these same relatives will go play the lottery and waste money instead of investing in real estate, stocks and bonds, insurance. Stuff like that requires organization and a love for one another, two things sorely lacking amongst black people. I thought in the 70’s it was “Black and Proud.” Lol. Just another gimmick as usual. The fact you had to have a campaign about loving yourself meant you really didn’t. You don’t see other ethnic groups having campaigns about loving themselves because it shows in their collective economics. They build with each other first.

By: sankofa

sankofa — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:08:25 +0000

@Steph and Deeann…I am currently reading a book called How to make a dollar out of fifteen cents by Daniel Freeman. Just the first few pages helped to bring me back down to earth after the whole Harv Eker Robert Kiyosaki love fest.

The question I wanted to ask is we had Weeksville in New Jersey, Black wall street in Tulsa, Hastings Street in Detroit, Central Avenue in LA, even Harlem at one time up until the 1960’s we had more disposable income, property and wealth than we do now. So what happened? Integration! We went to their schools, got JOBS and such, now we are wondering why we are losing? SMDH

By: Mack

Mack — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:58:06 +0000

http://www.ronlegrand.com/

By: Mack

Mack — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:56:53 +0000

Steph: Check out Ron LeGrand’s material online. Excellent resource for getting your foot in the door in the real estate game.

By: Steph

Steph — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 06:21:54 +0000

Thanks Mathews! I read several books of Robert Kiyosaki but I need more practical tools to create passive income. I am sure there are other ways beside via ownership of a home especially with the foreclosure crisis.