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Black Women, The Feminist Movement!!

September 17, 2011 by  
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( If people who read my column know one thing, it is that I am unafraid to say what I believe. I am also unafraid to leave out the sugarcoating.

For example, I believe that many Black men and women have been polarized by feminist propaganda.

We could get into historical perspectives and research as I have done before, or we could take a different approach of logic this time out.

For logic’s sake, we have to ask ourselves some simple questions: “Since we know that the extreme strife between the genders is fairly new, where did it all come from? Which gender has made radical changes in action and ideology?”

The goal here is not to blame women and move on. the goal is to identify the root cause and begin to create some solutions.

I believe the root cause of much of our gender strife was Black women  identifying Black men as their oppressor, and accordingly, viewing everything from a gender perspective when handling relationships within the race.

If either of us—men or women—view our interactions from a gender perspective, we will end up coloring those interactions with our gender politics.

This is why we see so many Black women identifying Black men as their oppressors.

Frankly, for the Black women who believe that they are being oppressed as a group by Black men as a group, reality is not a friend and history is not a strong suit.

Let’s examine some of the myths of Black oppression passed out by feminist propaganda:

Black men have been abusing Black women throughout history.

The abuse of Black women has to be placed in a world historical perspective to see who was doing it, because it wasn’t the strict domain of Africans, and based on our real history, it wasn’t even a significant number of African Americans.  When Black women were being prevented from voting, purchasing homes and cars, et al, Black men were right there being beaten back as well.

If you want to be honest, do the real research and admit that Black women were further in the workplace during Jim Crow and were working side by side with Black men, which is why marriages were working.

Black men have been holding Black women from equality.

Black women have always been equal to Black men, and in many ways, ahead of us.  It is a recent event to hear sisters declare that they want equality.  Black men are the most put upon, despised and hated living creature on the planet–we hate ourselves and now, many of our sisters have taken to hating us too, blaming us for their misery and pain even as we are miserable and hurt.  We are behind everyone in getting hired and accepted into anything good, but ahead of everyone in getting killed, arrested, beaten, profiled, blamed and hated–you want to be equal to this?

Have that equality if that is your true desire, but leave the blame for the inequality to those who have truly oppressed you.

Frankly, white women were being oppressed by white men and simply delivered that view to some Black women who then transferred the oppression mission to Black men.

As Black people, we have to focus on who we were, who we are, and who we can be.  Leave the white woman’s plight to the white woman.

Those things having been said, the whole issue of equality entered our community when white women duped Black women into joining them in a women’s rights movement that could not have a good result because it was intrinsically for white women (but they got some of you to see them as your “sisters”).  Prior to that, Black people were focusing on equality as humans, alongside Black men.

Black women who are realistic know that they can not separate sexism from racism and classism.  Black men are not your oppressor and looking at us that way only further divides us.  Are we holding you down on the job?  I think not.  Are we really oppressing you in the home?  Well, make up your mind, because we are either absent or abusive, but not both.  Since you have the financial and legal freedom to leave an unhappy marriage, you are only being oppressed if you sign up for it and stay.  You can’t be at once independent women, but poor abused creatures.

Black men fear, or are otherwise repulsed by progressive Black women.

Strong Black men don’t have a problem with the equality or the progress of Black women, because they are our mothers, sisters, daughters and lovers.  We do have a problem with the finger pointing to us, and with the nasty attitudes that come with the “I got mine and you are a bad person for not getting what I got” statements, coupled with the misplaced blame.

Here’s another myth:  Black men were ever far out in front of Black women.

First, take a look at where we are today, which is where we’ve been for a while:  Black women go to college more and are currently advancing faster professionally than Black men.

In pre-colonial African villages, Black women built the homes and were on top in the family.  Men were hunters and warriors.  In other African societies, Black women could be tribal leaders and queens.  The history you are pointing to ain’t African, and it really ain’t even African American.  It isn’t the full truth and it only serves to repel thinking men from women who pass this around.

In America, Black women ran the underground railroad, because Black men were being hunted down and killed with a vengeance.  We understand that you were being raped and beaten, but it wasn’t by us and it hurt us, too.  I suppose if Harriet Tubman were one of today’s “Independent Women,” she would have only helped the strong sisters and left those lazy weak, no-good men behind for oppressing all the female slaves.

For as much as Black people were wallowing in poverty, some of us were getting through—both male and female.  Black women went into white homes to work when Black men couldn’t show their faces.  Black men found work where they could, which often meant leaving the families for another state.

The first Black millionaire was a Black woman.  Black women entered the workplace more prolifically than Black men–more of them were secretaries and assistants, while more of us were janitors and porters.  But what Black women weren’t doing was sitting at home being subjugated by brutal men. Yesterday’s Black woman was smarter and stronger than that, so stop lying on her.

The stories of abuse and oppression of Black women by Black men were not as widespread as revisionist feminists want people to believe.  We’ve mostly heard the bad stories, because that’s how America works.

What?  You expect the stories of how we worked together beautifully to emerge from slavery, to endure Jim Crow and to hold on to each other through the Civil Rights Movement?  Please, just don’t believe the hype!  If we hated and blamed each other as much as we’ve been taught to now, we’d still be slaves, or we’d have died off by now.

Black women, try conversing with men as individual humans, as opposed to newly freed independent women who are mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.  We have also been abused and we don’t want to take it anymore, either.

If your movement is about Black women moving forward, let’s do that together.  But if your movement is about moving away from Black men, make certain that you understand that, as well as the fallout.

Black men are moved by love and understanding, by faith and respect.  We are moved by the truth and by unwavering dedication to our joint progress.  Move these things and we truly can move together.

If your movement is against men, don’t expect us to move with you.

And really, don’t even expect us to be moved.

Written By Darryl James

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10 Responses to “Black Women, The Feminist Movement!!”
  1. Ramses says:

    @Mack just looked up Tawawa House and you just gave me more ammo for what i’ve been already saying: black women have a secret relationship with white men we were oblivious to…we sitting around dying for them not knowing they are in secret dealings with them. Cleopatra’s reign represents the downfall of the Egyptian empire and she was trying to link up with white boys when we were in power. Bruh i’m done seeing that let me know what I have been saying is so true. All I can say to the black man understand the world? Stop being a local negro.

  2. Mack says:

    Excellent article! Definitely went under my radar. Also some excellent feedback and comments.

    I want to add: feminism was never the black woman’s fight or issue. During Jim Crow sisters could work in places like Sundown Towns when black men couldn’t. And many actually benefited from working closely with white men. Places like Tawawa House were built as resorts where white slave owners could take their black ‘slave’ mistresses and openly corvort with her without any negative repurcussions. Google Tawawa House. That ish is deep.

    In states like Virginia, its public record that white women were divorcing their husbands by the boat loads in the 1800’s, citing their men having adulturous affairs with black slave women as the biggest reason. So this whole notion of an oppressed community of black women needing freedom from her male oppressor is not entirely true.

    Even today black women are the most protected community of people in America. And I would argue anyone to prove me otherwise. What other group of people are rewarded for being an underachiever, having multiple children out of wedlock, being government funded through welfare and section 8 housing, having an unrealistic child-like disposition when it comes to dating and sex, and get lauded with television shows that celebrate such behavior?

    Sisters get a pass from American society when it comes to being accountable for their actions. Case in point: the chick on the bus who attacked the bus driver and caught the uppercut of the century. She has yet to be charged with the felony she deserves, because people were so quick to excuse her actions when it sparked a just reaction from the driver.

    This whole notion of black feminism comes from fictional stories like the Color Purple, which might as well had been a story about martians from outer space. That movie had the most dispicable portrayal of black men I’ve ever seen; second only to maybe Birth of a Nation. And ask most sisters in their 30’s and 40’s what their favorite movie is, they’ll most likely say The Color Purple. Not too surprising though, considering the author Alice Walker is an avowed lesbian black feminist.

    Only one correction though to the article: the first black American millionaire wasn’t a woman, but a brother named Paul Cuffe back in the late 1700’s.

  3. Brodie says:

    This is interesting when you consider that most black women see Feminism as a means to combat systemic injustices that benefit White males exclusively. You’re making Black men a decoy in a duck hunt. Stop that.

    But there are reasons for Black women to have a bone to pick with black men in cultural reflection though. During Civil Rights and later Black Power, Black Men reduced a race of people to a race of men making black women an after thought. The contributions of black women in the historical and cultural record of African Americans has been omitted, deemphasized and sometimes outright ignored by black men because they believe their relative oppression leaves no place for that acknowledgement, as if the concept is too complex for black women to handle. Then there are the sexist attitudes that came from trying to duplicate the white system of patriarchy and pass it off as “African”. Black women were equally recruited, equally solicited for and contributed their financial resources to Black organizations (Black Panther Party, US Organization, SNCC (which was started by a black woman), etc.) and to make the same bodily sacrifices as Black men only to be regulated to peripheral status with these organizations. That was not only inconsistent with “African” culture but the cultural synthesis that was responsible for the progress of African Americans from the end of slavery to 1964. The relationship between the black sexes was relatively egalitarian. Black women had built a solid network between the sexes and classes, built anti-lynching and anti-Jim Crow platforms, made business loans, raised funds and handled the logistics for traveling black male activists and their families, built schools, and still had enough energy and resources to advocate for their voting rights. I still wonder: why in every movement or religion Black men decide to create or co-opt it requires putting black women in their “rightful place”? As if they weren’t good at what they did for Blacks but Black Men specifically.

    The South African singer Leta Mbutu said: “What I saw was that the men wanted to be in total control-In Africa it isn’t like this. We always give men their role but women have just as strong power as men have and that’s not what I saw happening.”

    Amiri Baraka wrote: “All the black women in those militant black organizations deserved the highest praise. Not only did they stand with us shoulder to shoulder against black people’s enemies they had to go toe to toe with us battling day after day against our insufferable male chauvinism”.

    Black women didn’t initiate the tension between the sexes with Feminism. Black men taking on the sexist attitudes of white supremacy did that. The tension occurred when black women didn’t let them get away with it.

  4. Danny says:

    I’m all kinds of late to the party but I just have to say something.

    For example, I believe that many Black men and women have been polarized by feminist propaganda.
    Very true words. I may not fully agree with you on the rest of your post I do believe that feminism did play a role in polarizing black women and men. One thing I’ve seen from feminism is the expectation for black men to pretend that race is the only axis of oppression we know and for black women to pretend that gender is the only axis of oppression they know.

    If I talk about race I can pretty much count on feminists to come out of the woodwork to back me, as long as I keep it strictly on race because the moment I throw some gender in there I become the black patriarch that wants to oppress women in hopes of getting buddy buddy with white men.

    What baffles me is that despite this feminists seem to have no problem leaving black women hanging when it comes to race.

  5. blaine says:

    the only way to save black america is to destroy the jewess. White females have always been in it for themselves. Oh, it tickles their fancy to f*** a black teenager in bali or any other sex tourist hotspot, but they don’t want african-americans at home to have true equality because that pushes them from the front of the line when it comes to receiving dispensation from the state. Start destroying the white female and black america will be better off.

    Know your enemy, people. The evil white man is gone and has been replaced by a sneakier, more malignant oppressor.

  6. Vicki says:

    I think the author has not done due research on this subject matter. Since the 70’s, an emerging principle of BLACK feminism has evolved to address specific issues of black women in a racist and patriarchal society. Alot of principles of white feminists did help women achieve societial and economic equality (rights of property and body, civil rights, education and employment opportunity); but make no mistake, black feminist of that era knew that white women did not care much for the plight of the black woman.

    Black feminists were involved in community building. The movement has become bastardized by an angry element of women who most likely have been a child of a single parent household and poor/low quality male interaction. These women have been raised with man-like qualities because it was

    1)expected of them

    2)prudent for survival reasons and lastly

    3)lack of significant support in the community to be anything other than.

    I have heard men say that they want a woman who’s ‘got her own’. That getting her own came at the cost of an inter-dependant feminity. You can’t have it both ways, fellas. Either you want the inter-dependant woman or your want an independent woman. If you are running into mad as hell sista, think about what has made her mad? The men on the corner sexually harassing her, the racism that she faces at work, the painful yet accepted sexism that she faces within her own community? And yes, dear author, being absent and depriving support is abuse.

  7. Hrmmm... says:


    1. Africans allowing women to lead and be queens is true. But Africa is a HUGE continent. We can see from many ancient tribes still in existence with their culture fully in tact, that that is not 100% true. I don’t have stats on the percentage of tribes where the women play a more subordinate and submissive role. But to declare the statement that African women have always had leadership responsibilities and power seems off.

    2. Within feminism there are a variety of perspectives. There are plenty of women who take take feminism to the level of “we don’t need men,” “men are the oppressor,” etc. But Most women who identify as feminist believe that all it really means is that a woman should have the right to choose the type of life she would like to live. If she would like to stay at home with the kids–create that. If she would like to work and be a mom–create that. Rather than society choosing for them.

    3. I just completely disagree with you. The feminist movement is not what caused men to stop raising families and getting married. And what is hilarious is that this is ironically sounding like more of that “blame the woman for all of our societal problems” talk that you are saying does not exist among black men.

  8. natalie says:

    And a good proposal for those concerned with the current boy crisis in our country..

  9. natalie says:

    One of the best articles I have read on this site. Our community has long been held hostage by feminist ideologues. Many feminist would have society believe that anti the ideology is the equivalent of anti-woman. The two are not synonymous. Excellent article! A friend recently directed my attention to a few sites after I became familiar with a colleagues work in male centered counseling. Her name is Dr. Tara Palmatier:

    I first began my advocacy of creating an awareness of the negative impact of feminism on society (the black/brown community in particular) in the early years of my clinical practice and in various academic circles.I began to see a paradigm shift that led to less gender neutrality in various treatment modalities. This shift was parallel to the “change” that was taking place in society’s feminist influenced thinking as a whole. The shift to focusing exploration of womens issues in the context of their relationship to the men in their lives was indicative of society’s eventual progression towards the current “blame game” that takes place in many gender focused discussions. We began emphasizing accountability for men while extending them very little compassion. This was ruthless of course and it is respecting men but not necessarily loving them. On the other hand society began to emphasize compassion for women while extending them very little accountability.. it is infantilizing and it is loving women but not necessarily respecting them.

    There are a number of byproducts of this which include but are not limited to the destigmatizing the term unwed mother by lumping women that had children out of wedlock in with divorced mothers and widows, referring to them as “single parents. With this for example came the unintended consequence of empowering generations of women towards acceptance of the current “babymam” phenomena. You see referring to an unwed mother as a single mother is empowering in that it createss the narrative of a “strong black woman that made it in spite of…”. So if a child attends college it is the testatment of the strength of a single mother..if the same child were to become incarcerated it is an indictment of the colossal failure of men/fathers. Unbelieveable! Another unintenede consequence is the current “boy crisis” where the education disparity is growing, male suicide is increasing and the anti-male bias and bashing in society continues to become common practice.

    These idealogues no longer push for equality but they dominate the dialogue that has led to both subtle and overt notions of men=bad, women=good. I am old enough to remember a time when the social contract that had existed for thousands of years between man and woman was the crux of healthy vital societies. No, everything was not perfect, but children were more likely to be raised within the structure of family. The current conflicts between men and women and the subsequent break down of black family was not as prevalent as it has become. Something happened as the women’s liberation movement began to push more aggressively for “equality” and for the rights of women to have their roles evolve in society. With this push the social contract was broken on one side. While men continued to be held to an expectation that would honor their side of the social contract, radical feminist ideologues began to reshape the thinking of society with growing influence in many areas including education, policy and in my personal experience even the feminization of psychology.

    Feminist began to assert the notion that patriarchal oppression was responsible for many of society’s ills and at its most radical end that the social contract that had protected marriage and family was merely constructed for the benefit of those that sought to keep women “oppressed.” We swallowed hook line and sinker and began enjoying rights without responsible which is best characterized in the feminist mantra “my body my choice”….someone elses responsibility? And what do we have to show for being “sexually liberated” with COMPLETE control over reproduction (20+options for birth control pre-conception and access to safe abortions or adoption post conception)? An illigitimacy rate that increased exponentially over several decades aggresively approaching 8 in 10 while we continue to reduce it to merely a defiency in “black manhood.” Our community has been held hostage by liberal feminist idealogues for decades and we now see the detrimental impact of buying into this ideology and the subsequent policies.

    Oh and these young men may not be able to fully understand the message but they are starting to demonstrate more outward objections to the comparative difference in expectation that society has place on them. But one will never hear this injected into conversations regarding equality by idealogues. What is coming, is the tipping point where men and boys will inevitably begin to aggressively “push back.” A society that despises its men runs the risk of creating a society of despicable men. The good thing is that there are a growing number of men and women that no longer will accept the lowered expectations and dependency upon these ideologues that have contributed to the rapid deterioration of our families, community, values and subsequent economic decline.

    I have stood in the trenches alongside many men in the fight for a womans right to “choice”… these men that fight so passionately would have their rights not even welcome in discussions regarding reproductive by the very women for whom they fight so passionately for. There is a groweing coalition and together we can achieve true equality for all that “TRULY BELIEVE” in fairness. We can no longer dismiss our mens voices from the discussion focusing on their behavior without any exploration of the underlying causes, their feelings, and continue to make assumptions about their feelings (or lack of). Feminism has contributed largely in part to the current gender conflicts and hurts in our community. A sentiment expressed by a few in my field of study is the idea that “hurt people, hurt people.” We are hurting in our community and as it stands now we continue the cycle without ever really looking at some of the real problems.

    It is far to easy to simply reduce it to a need for men to “man up” (what an emasculating term since we as women shuld never engage in defining manhood) as our president has suggested on a few fathers days. Do a little research, work on increasing our capacity for perspective taking, engage in objective dialogue, seek truth and share as this author has done.

    A sista long tired of talking bout it..Busy being about it!

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